Re: Grimm shift as starting point of "Germanic"

From: tgpedersen
Message: 54847
Date: 2008-03-07

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@...>
wrote:
>
> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:40:55 -0000, "tgpedersen"
> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>
> >--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:15:21 -0500, "Brian M. Scott"
> >> <BMScott@> wrote:
> >>
> >> >At 6:49:37 PM on Thursday, March 6, 2008, Miguel Carrasquer
> >> >Vidal wrote:
> >> >
> >> >[...]
> >> >
> >> >> A beautiful application of the law by Guus Kroonen can be
> >> >> found here:
> >> >
> >> >> http://website.leidenuniv.nl/~kroonengj/montreal.pdf
> >> >
> >> >> http://website.leidenuniv.nl/~kroonengj/iwoba3.ppt
> >> >
> >> >Now *that* is elegant.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thank you Brian. That was my first reaction as well, when I
> >> first heard it. This is so beautiful, it deserves to be
> >> true.
> >>
> >
> >Yes, doesn't it. Now what to do with gemination in verbs?
>
> n-stems and j-stems.

That is, the origin of the geminated and nasal-infixed stems is
n-stems and j-stems, I presume you mean? How come the n- and j-
suffixes survived in some stems and not in others? How come those
stems are associated with velar/labial auslaut alternation?


> >The whole
> >language of geminates complex?
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46151
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46163
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46169
> >http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/48657
>
> Apparently, the language of geminates == Germanic.


So, would you say that the occurrence of these stems in other
languages are loans?


Torsten