From: Rick McCallister
Message: 54755
Date: 2008-03-06
> Saint Cosmas and Damian = Dioskouroicolor:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px
> Saint George = Archangel Michael = Perseus,
> Bellerophons, Horus
> Saint Sebastian = Apollo
>
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 6 de Março de 2008 14:28:40
> Assunto: Re: [tied] Re: Swiftness of Indra
>
> Not so rare. Look at how the
> Greeks totally
> transformed the Roman and Etruscan pantheons.
> Look at how Christianity incorporated foreign gods
> through demotion. Santa Claus in many of his
> attributes is a demoted Thor. St. Martin the soldier
> a
> demoted Mars.
> Easter is the name of a pagan goddess.
> The Book of Esther is a wholesale incorporation of
> the
> cult of Marduk and Ishtar.
> Christianity, as practiced in much of the US South,
> with its emphasis upon hatred and exclusion of the
> Other, glee and self-satisfaction at the suffering
> of
> non-believers is more akin to the worship of Odin
> than
> any mainstream form of Christianity.
> As you well know, Buddha and Jesus are the 8th and
> 9th
> avatars of Vishnu --at least according to many
> Hindus.
> Islam, as practiced by most Muslims, also
> incorporates
> many aspects of preexisting religions --such as
> adoration of saints, spirits, even other gods such
> as
> Ram among Indian Muslims I've met.
> Religion is probably the most malleable institution
> that exists among humans.
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@ msn.com> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@ yahoo.com>
> > To: <cybalist@... s.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 10:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Swiftness of Indra
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@ msn.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The only objections I would raise would be:
> > > >
> > > > 1) it is rather unusual to borrow a name for
> the
> > > > supreme god;
> > >
> > > Not true: See Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah et al. In
> > > Meso-America Nahuatl names were borrowed,
> calqued
> > or
> > > subjected to popular etymology, etc. In West
> > Africa,
> > > some names were shared: e.g. Legba was Ewe-Fon
> but
> > > passed into Yoruba and then into Santería as
> > Eleguá.
> > > Some Buddhist deities, avatars and boddhisattvas
> > had
> > > names that passed from Sanskrit to Chinese to
> > > Japanese.
> > > Religion and religious terminology seem very
> prone
> > to
> > > borrowing
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > ***
> >
> > True, Rick.
> >
> > You must differentiate between borrowing a foreign
> > name for an existing
> > native god, who keeps his native attributes,
> >
> > and
> >
> > adopting a foreign god with his original foreign
> > attributes into the native
> > pantheon (like Isis in the classical world).
> >
> > Continuing to worship Odin but calling him Yahweh?
> > Pretty rare.
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ***
> >
> >
>
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