Res: [tied] pre Proto Indo-European *DAG at Lepenski Vir?

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 54624
Date: 2008-03-04

Dagon/Dagan from Semitic DGN "grain, corn". I suspect a relation with substratak Greek Kronos. Dagan was the Semitic equivalent of Anatolian Kumarpish, evil god that bit Alalu's genitals, like Kronos castrated Ouranos. I think Kronos < *IE grh2nos.
Dagon's imagery as fish-tailed seems to be an influence of Mesopotamic sea-god Ea/Enki/Oannes, perhaps due Semitic folk-etymology of Dagon < dag "fish".

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De: Rau Eugen Doru <eugenrau@...>
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Assunto: [tied] pre Proto Indo-European *DAG at Lepenski Vir?

The story begins with those sculptured stones found at Lepensi Vir,in
the shape a fishy-human heads.
Picture: http://commons. wikimedia. org/wiki/ Image:Lepenski_ Vir_Head. JPG

The puzzle is that the same idea appeared thousend years later as
Dagan/Dagon in Near-East.
My idea is that related to :
-Nostratic:. Meaning: to brand. Georgian: dag-.
-Proto-North- Dravidian : *dag- :"to shine";
Here we could have in fact in a larger area root *DAG-: "to burn,
cauterize, brand,"?
I suppose a pre PIE (or proto-Aegean) *DAG:"shiny/ shining"? from wich
the later:
-Proto-IE:*dAg' h- "day". (otherwise Proto-Indo-European *d&#688;eg&# 688;- ("`to
burn'").* dyew, "light of day"), and
-Sumerian DAG:"day,bright, shining,light, day-break, dawn"?
Maybe the source is the (burning)shining SUN.This word come to ment
either in sumerian :"spread/streched out,extend,cover" ,at least some
beeing also atributes of the sun.

My hypothesys is that from this very *DAG:"shiny" ?
(sparkling,flaming, brilliant, ...?)come later:
Altaic/turkish DAG:"mountain" (covered with snow>shining peak,as eg.
Nemrut-Dag/Nimrud Dagh (Mount Nimrod)is)
Pr.-Afr.As. *dag-'fish': Proto-Semitic *dag- 'fish':Hebrew
day 'fish'(wich of corse is shining)
DAG:"day-light" in PIE >> DAG:"day" in IE
Avestan DAG:"tu burn" and in sanskrit Dag-da,together with
dah/dahati:" to burn".See also European,(irish)
daig/daigh :"flame,fire" and Dagaz wich symbolizes light at its
height, much equated with summer.

This DAG could be in that remote time that "shining-one" the
heavenly,sky, ocean-sky deity,(above all/other deities?).




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