Re: PIE meaning of the Germanic dental preterit

----- Original Message -----
From: "Miguel Carrasquer Vidal" <miguelc@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] PIE meaning of the Germanic dental preterit


> On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:08:23 -0600, "Patrick Ryan"
> <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Miguel Carrasquer Vidal" <miguelc@...>
> >> *dheh1i- is "to suck". The verbal root that has been
> >> discussed here all along is *dheh1-. What matters in the
> >> case of baidýti is what the root means in Balto-Slavic. LIV
> >> gives the following Balto-Slavic meanings: "legen; hinlegen;
> >> setzen; (Eier) legen; anlöten; machen; tun; sagen;
> >> sprechen".
> >>
> >> >Perhaps Sergei will change your mind on its verbal nature?
> >>
> >> Sergei just confirmed my earlier guess that the formation
> >> (baidýti) is denominal.
> >>
> >***
> >
> >I guess you do not trust Pokorny who lists *dhi- as an extended form of
> >*dhe:-.
>
> No he doesn't. He lists as one of many "Nominalbildungen"
> *dh-i- (i.e. *dhh1-i-), and the forms given are: Skt.
> ni-dh-í-s m. `Behälter, Schatz', sam-dh-í-s m. `Vereinigung,
> Bündnis, Sandhi', Av. gao-di- `Milchbehälter'; Lit. pãdis
> `der Henne unterlegtes Ei'. The -i- is not part of the
> root, it is part of the i-stem nominal derivation.
>
> >Pokorny list 'suck' as *dhe:(i)-; I guess you do not believe him on that
> >either.
>
> Yes I do, see above: *dheh1i-
>
> >Denominal? Does that mean that the first element is nominal: *bhoi-?
>
> The first element is the root of the noun bai~das.
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> miguelc@...


***

If you believe Pokorny, why did you write above: "*dheh1i- is "to suck""
when the base is obviously *dhe:(H)-? NOT *dhe:(H)i-?

Why is it so hard to get a straight answer from you?

Is the first element, which is the root of the noun <bai~das>, itself
nominal? That is *bhoi-.

Patrick