Re: PIE meaning of the Germanic dental preterit

From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
Message: 54478
Date: 2008-03-02

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 11:29:50 -0000, "tgpedersen"
<tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <miguelc@...>
>wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:52:29 -0000, "tgpedersen"
>> <tgpedersen@...> wrote:
>>
>> >This is nicer: the 'me-thinks' construction:
>> >*mis trewa satiða "by-me/for-me (a) tree was-set (3sg middle)"
>> >*þus trewa satiða "by-thee/for-thee (a) tree was-set (3sg middle)"
>> >*imma trewa satiða "by-him/for-him (a) tree was-set (3sg middle)"
>> >
>> >>
>> >becomes a 'I-think' construction
>> >*ik trewa satiða "by-me/for-me (a) tree was-set (3sg middle)"
>> >*þu trewa satiðe:s "by-thee/for-thee (a) tree was-set (3sg middle)"
>> >*is trewa satiða "by-him/for-him (a) tree was-set (3sg middle)"
>> >
>> >in that 3sg. is misinterpreted as a form of the 'do' verb which is
>> >then used to supplement the paradigm.
>>
>> What does "(3sg middle)" mean at the end of the lines?
>
>I think the ppp in *-tó and the middle secondary 3sg *-to have the
>same origin.
>
>>
>> What do you think PGmc. *-a gives in the Gothic Auslaut?
>
>I thought it gave *-a. But I'm sure you have a nasty surprise for me
>up your sleeve.

You guessed right. *-a gives zero (e.g. *dagaz > dags, 1sg,
strong past *-h2a > *-a > -0).
The Gothic 3sg. passive ending -da is from middle present
*-tój (> *-daj > *-de: > -da).


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