From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53946
Date: 2008-02-22
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From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKA
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Finnish KASKA
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> > On 2008-02-21 21:46, Patrick Ryan wrote:
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> > > Why is it *dwo- rather than *dwé-?
> > >
> > > Before endings added.
> >
> > In theory, it's *dw-e/o-, a thematic stem. The thematic vowel was *e or
> > *o, the colour being originally determined by the ending -- *o if the
> > first segment of the ending was voiced, *e otherwise (this original
> > distribution was often disturbed by analogical levelling, especially in
> > the declensional system). If *dw-o: comes from *dw-o-X, where *X is the
> > original animate nom.du. ending, the quality of the thematic vowel
> > suggests that *X was a voiced or an *o-colouring consonant. As *h3 was
> > both, it's possible that the anim. nom.du. should be reconstructed as
> > *dw-o-h3.
> >
> > All the other dual case forms, animate as well as neuter, had voiced
> > endings, so the thematic vowel of the numeral 'two' was *-o- across the
> > board. However, if 'two' occurs as the first member of a compound, we
> > find the bare stem *dw-V- with the thematic vowel reduced to *-i-, hence
> > the compositional variant *dwi-.
> >
> > Piotr
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> Thank you very much, Piotr, that is exactly what I was looking for: a
> standard theory explanation.
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> I could differ on a number of points but I am not sure what would be
> served by it.
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> One point I would take up if you feel like pursuing it with me.
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> Thematic vowel reduced to -*I-?
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> So, now the thematic vowel, *A, is realizable as *e, *o, *Ø, AND *i.
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> In my opinion, this is flat-out wrong.
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> Patrick
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