From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 53720
Date: 2008-02-19
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From: "Patrick Ryan" <proto-language@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] RE: THE CASE OF "SAP" (PIE FROM BASE *SAB- ) & C. ARABIC
"SAB"
> My answer is: yes.
>
> If we look at a PIE *sa(:)b- as a reflex of PL SHA-P?E, we can connect
>
> Arabic sab with
>
> PIE *sa(:)b-
>
> perhaps seen in PA (HS) #2214, *seb-, 'flow, pour'.
>
> This would not require an *H for length of vowel.
>
> Latin *sap- seems to me to be a related but separate word but *sap- is
> what it (*sab) is listed under in Pokorny.
>
> Regarding the length of the vowel, we might notice Avestan <viSapa>.
>
>
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] RE: THE CASE OF "SAP" (PIE FROM BASE *SAB- ) & C.
> ARABIC "SAB"
>
>
> > http://www.theegyptianchronicles.com/ANEW/SAB.html
> >
> > That the term "sap" (PIE from base *sab) is not exclusively an IE word,
> > since it is equally found in Classical Arabic as "sab".
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Ishinan
> > ==============
> >
> > Connection between
> > LAtin sap with short a
> > PIE *sab juice
> > is somehow possible
> > if we posit that the root is
> > *s_?-p
> > with a glottal stop that causes -b
> > in Central PIE.
> > Now
> > LAtin is short : should be a:
> >
> > Arabic sa:b has no glottal stop.
> >
> > The whole thing is unclear.
> >
> > Arnaud
> > =================
> >
> >
> >
>