Re: Temarunda (follow up)

--- george knysh <gknysh@...> wrote:

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> --- Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, george knysh
> > <gknysh@...> wrote:
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> > > Is there anything radically impossible about the
> > "Indic" analysis
> > > of Temarunda?
> >
> > One substantial objection to his analysis could be
> > that arn.a- in
> > the RV means 'wave, flood, stream; (fig.) tumult
> of
> > battle' --
> > lit. 'being in motion, flowing, surging' (< ar-
> 'to
> > put in motion,
> > send, move, rise'). I am not sure as to the
> > existence of an equally
> > old meaning 'sea', at least in the R.gvedic
> period.
> > For instance,
> > ar.na- is not glossed as 'sea' in either
> > Monier-Williams' and Apte's
> > Skt. dictionaries.
> >
> > Did the R.gvedic Aryans know any "real" sea or
> not?
> > Did they have
> > any term designating the sea, or was their
> original
> > habitat so land-
> > locked that they hadn't any?
> >
> > (Remember the past discussions on the R.gvedic
> > Sanskrit term samudra-
> > = 'water confluence', not 'sea'?)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Francesco
>
> GK: (1)What about the Indo-Iranian stage? Is
> there
> a "sea" word? (2) Is there one in Iranian? (just out
> of curiosity)

****GK: Or leaving (1) and (2) aside. I think that it
is more than incredible that Indians would not have
had experience of the "sea", whether at the R.vedic
stage or afterwards. That's a complete non-starter. If
"temarunda" (or something similar) means "mater
matris" (and why doubt Pliny?) then it's clear there
must be something in it that's seaworthy (:=)))
Sanskrit (judging by dictionaries) seems to have quite
a large vocabulary referring to things that, one way
or another, are associated with the sea. It seems to
like circumlocutions. So what, then, if this ar.na
isn't in Apte or Monier-Williams? It's "wet" enough I
believe. At least "tem-" and "da" work. Close enough.
It might look like circular reasoning to feel that
perhaps the Sindic "arun" was closer to "sea" than
classical Sanskrit was, but on balance, Hesychius and
"Sindica" are all it really takes to label these
populations. And there is plenty more. Feel free to be
skeptical.I'm not.****

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