Re: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white people"?

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 53433
Date: 2008-02-16

Like I said, "I believe the rest of the Basque
scholars all agreed with Trask."

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

> I also participated with Trask; and I thnk Basque
> had /m/.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Meaning of Aryan: now,
> "white people"?
>
>
> > Then I give him credit for having mentioned it.
> But
> > I'm sure Trask was right. You'll have to go back
> and
> > see what Trask wrote but it was pretty convincing.
> > Bengtson didn't offer anything to back up his
> hunch.
> > There was also a controversy re: mini and other
> modern
> > Basque words beginning with /m/. Trask said they
> > originally had /b/ or /nb/. I believe the rest of
> the
> > Basque scholars all agreed with Trask.
> >
> >
> > --- Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> McCallister
> > > <gabaroo6958@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Be careful with Bengtson's information. Even
> after
> > > > Larry Trask showed him that much of his Basque
> > > > vocabulary consisted of loanwords from
> Romance, he
> > > > refused to even consider the possibility. I
> don't
> > > know
> > > > how good his information is from other sources
> but
> > > his
> > > > work on Basque is seriously flawed because he
> lets
> > > his
> > > > grand design get in the way of facts.
> > > > Basically Bengtson refused to believe that
> > > pre-Basque
> > > > lacked /m/, something that Basque specialists
> seem
> > > to
> > > > agree on. He also refused to consider words
> from
> > > > Gascon, Aragonese as probable sources for
> > > loanwords
> > > > into Basque --e.g. eme "woman, female
> (morpheme)"
> > > <
> > > > Gascon heme "woman" < femina; okondo < native
> > > Basque
> > > > oko "arm" + ondo "bottom (morpheme)" from
> Gascon
> > > or
> > > > Spanish hondo are a couple I remember.
> > >
> > > Some details of this controversy are found on
> > > Bengtson's Basque
> > > database recently put online:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3b9cuq
> > > http://tinyurl.com/2jxwmg
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Francesco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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