Re: Meaning of Aryan: now, "white people"?

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 53345
Date: 2008-02-15

On 2008-02-15 22:44, mkelkar2003 wrote:

> The best fit model obtained by Ringe et. al. fits the above secnerio
> very well.

No, it doesn't. In all their trees the first split is between Anatolian
and "non-Anatolian IE", and then non-Anatolian IE splits into Tocharian
and "the rest" -- the crown group of IE. None of the analyses suggests
anything corresponding to Elst's "zone A" or to "Tocharo-Italo-Celtic".
There is no "Greek-Armenian-Aryan" either (except in Tree E, the "least
perfect" one). And why does Elst forget Albanian? Maybe he's half-aware
that Albania is a more plausible IE homeland than India and wants to get
it out of sight, just in case ;)

> Germanic oscillates just like it is supposed to assuming a South
> Asian homeland.

Would it oscillate differently if the homeland were different? Why?

> Elst's (2000) Group A would be far right in Fig 12 and Group B far
> left.

This reading of the tree proves that you don't even understand what a
phylogeny means.

Piotr