Re: Re[4]: [tied] Economic analysis of Indian History: meaning of Ar

I remember seeing, years ago, a claim that rise, raise
and rear (up) were non IE words, so I'm wondering if
they're related to *ar-
If so, what happened to the *a-? Was the a- of arise
perceived to be a prefix?
Latin oriens is form the same root, right? If so, why
the o-?


--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 11:03 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re[4]: [tied] Economic analysis of
> Indian History: meaning
> of Aryan
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> > ***
> > For semantic reason, I believe the *H2 of
> 'mountain' is [?] while
> > the *H2 for 'Aryan' is [h].
> > ***
> >
> > It seems you gave up the notion that H1 is [?]
> > Good news.
> > Arnaud
> > ===================
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> ***
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> H1/2/3 - it makes no difference; they were all
> phonetically [h].
>
> This [h] derived from earlier [?, h, H].
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> > ***
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> > I agree that the likliest embarkation spot for
> PIE's to Europe is
> > Anatolia.
> >
> > I suspect strongly that ¿-r-b is related to
> Egyptian j3b(.t), 'east', and
> > they are being characterized as 'Easterners'.
> >
> > Yet another *H2-r.
> >
> > Patrick
> > =============
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> > It's hard to believe Arabs could take their name
> > from people they have - about never - met at all.
> >
> > And j is either yod or ?Alif not &ayin.
> >
> > This root also means left
> > Coptic eiebt < *ju3bat-
> >
> > Arnaud
> > ===============
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> ***
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> To people living in Egypt or around the
> Mediterranean, Arabia would be
> 'East'.
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> ***
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> Egyptian <j> is all of those + <H>; <h> is the same
> before <o/u>.
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> Patrick
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> ***
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