From: Patrick Ryan
Message: 52113
Date: 2008-01-30
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McCallister" <gabaroo6958@...>
To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re: Limitations of the
comparative method
> Egyptian for gold is nub, right?
> Many popular books claim Nubia is "land of gold"
> -although I've never seen it anywhere else. But they
> got it from somewhere
>
>
> --- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:
>
> > If the PIE's had wanted to characterize 'gold' as
> > the 'piece smelted', they
> > could have used *t(h)aHw-.
> >
> > Instead, they used *Hawes-, 'dawn(-colored thing)'
> > and *g^hel-dh-,
> > 'shiny-nugget'.
> >
> > The Egyptians called it the 'melt-place=kiln' ->
> > 'fiercely desired' but used
> > a different root: n(w)b (PIE *leubh-).
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> > To: <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 3:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Re:
> > Limitations of the
> > comparative method
> >
> >
> > You may believe if you choose that xrusos comes from
> > Hebrew Harûz but I
> > prefer to believe that it is a unique derivation
> > from PIE *ghre:u-(**s-).
> > Why would the Greeks need to borrow a word for
> > 'gold'?
> >
> > Do you have access to the argumentation supporting
> > it as a loan?
> >
> > ============
> > According to a friend of mine, who is an
> > archeologist,
> > no metal can be very ancient,
> > including gold.
> > So it's not impossible that most of these words are
> > loanwords
> > including my *H_H_w-s.
> > especially in view of Arabic dhahb < *dahb.
> > H2 out of *d is not possible.
> > It requires an already evolved form
> > *dahb
> > then
> > *dhahb
> > then
> > *zahb
> > loanword
> > HaHw-
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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