Re: IS PIE * DERU EXCLUSIVELY INDO-EUROPEAN ?

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 51984
Date: 2008-01-27

I saw dorsum listed as one of these but I've seen
explanations of it as a compound from Latin de +
orsum.
What the real deal?


--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Piotr Gasiorowski
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 5:58 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] IS PIE
> * DERU EXCLUSIVELY INDO-EUROPEAN ?
>
>
> On 2008-01-27 09:30, fournet.arnaud wrote:
>
> > dakru = akru
>
> OK, that's one of them, "Western" *dak^ru ~
> "Eastern" *h2ak^ru-.
>
> ===========
> Thank you for this unexpected support.
> Arnaud
> ===================
>
> > arbor = doru
>
> Any particular reason for connecting these two,
> other than the meaning?
> =================
> The same reason as for dakru = akru
> Arnaud
> ================
>
> > arse = dorsum
>
> The 'arse' word is to be reconstructed as
> *h1orsos. But medial *-rs-
> gives Lat. -rr-, so <dorsum>, whatever its
> etymology, reflects *-rt-t-
> rather than *-rs-.
> =============
> ok,
> so the form should be HorT- (T unknown status )
> Hence hort-to and t?-Hort-to
>
> Why should it be H1 ?
> What about a connection with red- "going back" ?
> [Unnecessary HTM version deleted. - Richard.]
> Arnaud
> ============
> so the connection
> > eigh = deigh (to stick, to sting)
> What is "eigh"?
> ========
> Cf English itch-
> Arnaud
> ================
> Skt. ahar/n- vs. Gmc. *DaGaz,
> but in the latter the initial goes back to *dH,
> not *d.
> ========
> Why *dH ?
> Could you please explain more ?
> Arnaud
> ==========
>
> > And there are a mountain of examples
> > when it comes to comparing PIE with other
> languages.
>
> a "prefix" not supported by IE data is used to
> justify long-distance comparisons. Mark my words: it
> can't end well ;)
> =========
> I disagree with this statement "not supported".
> And it sounds strange : you agreed with D-akru =
> Hakru
>
> Arnaud
> ==========
>
>
>



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