Re: ficken

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> On 2008-01-21 17:14, Patrick Ryan wrote:
>

> There are, however, reasons to believe that the meaning
> 'fuck' is a (dialectal?) Germanic innovation and that the original
> meaning of the verb was approximately 'shove, push, punch'

If Albanian puth < *puk^-o (and Romanian put,a < *puk^-eh2) belongs
here (->the phonetism fits, ->the semantism fits) the sexual
connotation of Germanic 'fuck' belongs to PIE times or in any case to
some very old times

but of course, it remains a derivation of peuk^-/puk^ - root

> Piotr

and in this case the sexual connotations for 'fox' are very old too.

Marius