Re: OF WHOREDOM .....& other X rated words

From: fournet.arnaud
Message: 51583
Date: 2008-01-20

This Arabic word &_h_r is a verb
basically it means "to misbehave"
hence "to commit adultery".
It refers to *both* men or women,
not especially to women.
 
The semantic connection with "whore" is weak
misbehavior > adulterous > "loose" woman > whore
 
The phonetics is impossible.
&_h_r = PIE H2_H2_r
 
Arnaud
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick McCallister
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] OF WHOREDOM .....& other X rated words

I couldn't get to your website.
The Arab words I know for whore et al. are sharmutah
"whore" but also "rag"; kalbah "bitch" and slikah
"bitch, etc." I'm guessing that sharmutah and slikah
are probably loanwords or innovations

--- The Egyptian Chronicles
<The_Egyptian_ Chronicles@ insightbb. com> wrote:

> IE etymologists have long asserted that the word
> "Whore" is derived from PIE *qar-, a base that has
> produced words in other languages for "lover".
>
>
> "WHORE (n.) O.E. hore "prostitute, harlot,"
> from P.Gmc. *khoraz (fem. *khoron-) "one who
> desires" (cf. O.N. hora "adulteress, " Dan. hore,
> Swed. hora, Du. hoer, O.H.G. huora "whore;" in Goth.
> only in the masc. hors "adulterer, fornicator," also
> as a verb, horinon "commit adultery"), from PIE
> *qar-, a base that has produced words in other
> languages for "lover" (cf. L. carus "dear;" O.Ir.
> cara "friend;" O.Pers. kama "desire;" Skt. Kama,
> name of the Hindu god of love, kamah "love,
> desire,"). Whore itself is perhaps a Gmc. euphemism
> for a word that has not survived. "
>
>
> What has not been convincingly explained is that
> whoredom, the business of prostitution, is actually
> the opposite of love and desire. In fact, whoredom
> is none other than sexual intercourse (usually in
> exchange for money). A simple "sex for hire"
> transaction that bears no relation whatsoever to any
> endearment feeling (L. carus.) This convoluted
> explanation reminds me of the French expression:
> chercher midi à quatorze heures * (translation at
> the end of this post).
>
> To prove the disparity between reality and this
> fictitious reconstruction, a single straightforward
> comparison outside IE is enough to torpedo this
> notion once and for all.
>
> For example, compare this notion of whoredom (O.E.
> hore "prostitute, harlot," (cf. O.N. hora
> "adulteress, " Dan. hore, Swed. hora, Du. hoer,
> O.H.G. huora "whore. and the C.Ar. `hr /` hwr root
> of (` ayn + ha' +ra')
>
> Which means the following:
>
>
> (n) A whore, a fornicatrice, (v) committing
> adultery and fornication. Not the slightest allusion
> to any inkling of love and /or desire. As the
> definition indicates;, it is whoredom and
> fornication, pure and simple.
>
> (For the Dictionary definition of "Whore" in
> Arabic: See attached JPEG .)
>
>
http://www.theegypt ianchronicles. com/ANEW/ WHOREDOM. html
>
> Unfortunately, because the word is found outside IE,
> it has never been recognized.
>
> Ishinan
>
>
>
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>
> *a quirky way of telling someone is making an issue
> more difficult than it needs to be - turning
> something simple into something complicated.

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