Re: PIE-Arabic Correspondences (was Brugmann's Law)

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From: Patrick Ryan

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Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied] Re: PIE-Arabic Correspondences (was Brugmann's Law)

 

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From: fournet.arnaud

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From: Rick McCallister

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Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:33 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Brugmann's Law

--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@ msn.com> wrote:
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Ryan : IE *kWrey-, buy; Arabic Sarâ/yaSrî, buy

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This PIE root is not clear.

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Not clear? There are hundreds of PIE roots of the form *C-C-y.

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It's not clear from a semantic point of view

I think there are two roots.

I am not discussing phonetic shape.

But I understand this tentative diversion.

You know you are already wrong in the first place.

 

Arnaud

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And *kwrey is just an infix variant of *kw_y_H_

 

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PIE does _not_ have infixes!

 

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LOL

what about -n- ?

As in frango ~ fragilis ?

 

One obvious PIE infix is -n-.

 

PIE had many more infixes than usually accepted.

Arnaud

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Which may be the fusion of two roots.

The meaning is not "to buy". (anachronistic)

 

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The meaning of which "is not "to buy""?

 

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Arabic 1 qâyadh? "to barter,  to exchange goods"

Greek tî-ô "to estimate, to honour"

Arabic qîma "cost, value" = Greek tîmê

Arabic 2 qad?aya "to pay back (a crime, a debt), to judge"

Greek "tînô" and poenâ "punishment"

 

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No relationship whatsoever.

 

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The relationship is obvious.

Anathema does not help.

Denial of the obvious is not refutation.

 

Arnaud

 

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Ryan : IE *kWe:i- (<- *kWeiH-), pay attention to; Arabic
> SâHa /yaSîHu, do anything carefully

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The core meaning of *kw_H is to look at,

CF. to show, etc

Not the same meaning.

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Almost identical.

 

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Defeat is **almost** victory

but it is not victory.

this argument is worthless.

 

Arnaud

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> IE *kWoi-, *kWi:- (*for *kWe:i- [*kWeiH-]) - cf. Old
> Indian ke:ta, will, desire, intention, challenge,
> invitation), desire, invite; Arabic Sâ?a/yaSâ?u,
> will, wish, desire

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Which number in Pokorny ?

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I asked a Simple question :

It remained unanswered.

 

I understand : you are not discussing reality

but your dream-land.

 

Arnaud

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