Re: Brugmann's Law

Perhaps it entered Arabic from Egyptian and spread
from there. I can't attest that my Arabic professor
was correct --he had a PhD from Princeton but then a
certain president has degrees from Harvard and Yale


--- Patrick Ryan <proto-language@...> wrote:

> The verb occurs in, at least, one Egyptian folksong
> I know: El Re:m Wadi: Thaqi:f.
>
> "Ma shuft ana lak waSi:f."
>
>
> Patrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick
> McCallister<mailto:gabaroo6958@...>
> To:
>

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> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Brugmann's
> Law
>
>
> shufak "see you (later)" with English <sh> sound.
> I
> don't know what his criteria was --whether it was
> originally non-Arabic, whether it just didn't show
> up
> in the Qur'an or whether it was a later formation.
> I'd
> check for relatives in Semitic
>
> --- Patrick Ryan
>

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> wrote:
>
> > Rick, did he mean shufak or s.ufak?
> >
> > I used capital S for esh because of the source I
> > used for the data but perhaps I should have
> changed
> > S to sh?
> >
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rick
> >
>

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> > To:
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> >
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied]
> Brugmann's
> > Law
> >
> >
> > When I took Arabic many years ago I was told
> that
> > Suf
> > was not Classical Arabic. I'd learned te
> > expression
> > Sufak from Lebanese friends but the professor
> told
> > me
> > that it was formal Arabic. So I wonder if it was
> > Aramaic or a coinage in later Arabic
> >
> > --- Patrick Ryan
> >
>
>

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> > wrote:
> >
> > > IE *kWrey-, buy; Arabic Sarâ/yaSrî, buy
> > >
> > > IE *kWe:i- (<- *kWeiH-), pay attention to;
> > Arabic
> > > SâHa /yaSîHu, do anything carefully
> > >
> > > IE *kWoi-, *kWi:- (*for *kWe:i- [*kWeiH-]) -
> cf.
> > Old
> > > Indian ke:ta, will, desire, intention,
> > challenge,
> > > invitation), desire, invite; Arabic
> Sâ?a/yaSâ?u,
> > > will, wish, desire
> > >
> > > IE *kWe/e:d-, *kWo/o:d- (older *kewed-?),
> > > approximately prick (prickle, point), bore,
> > whet,
> > > sharpen, drive on, antagonize; Arabic
> > > SaTTa/yaSi/uTTu, to be far away, wrong
> someone,
> > > penetrate into
> > >
> > > IE (*kewep-:)*kwe:p- (for *(s)kwe:up-),
> *kw6p-,
> > > *ku/u:p-, smoke, roil, boil, also mentally in
> > > turmoil, in violent motion, *desire (cf. Latin
> > > cupio:, desire, and Greek skopéo:, look at);
> > Arabic
> > > Sâfa/yaSûfu, see, *desire (cf. Sawfun, strong
> > > desire)
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From:
> > >
> >
>
>

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> > >
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:44 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied]
> > Brugmann's
> > > Law
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PIE *kw is PAA *sh.
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > > ==========
> > > For example ?
> > > What cognates support this assertion ?
> > >
> > > Arnaud
> > > ==============
> > >
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