From: Rick McCallister
Message: 51334
Date: 2008-01-17
> On Sri, sijeèanj 16, 2008 8:20 pm, Rick McCallister____________________________________________________________________________________
> wrote:
> > I have a Serbian friend who tells me that Serbian
> is
> > conservative mainly at the text book level but
> that
> > the spoken language is much less complex and
> closer to
> > Bulgarian.
>
> If by spoken language you mean Southern Serbia, then
> yes. They don't have
> cases (that is, they have one oblique form), like
> Bulgarian. In Northern
> Serbia, the cases are intact.
>
> > He says Slovenian is much more complex and
> > seems like an "antiquated" form of Serbian. But
> that's
> > just hi intuition
>
> Depends what you're looking at. But actually, while
> Croatian and Serbian
> written form is pretty much what you get pronounced,
> in Slovene the normal
> pronunciation is quite different from the
> intentionally archaic writing
> system.
>
> Mate
>
> > --- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-01-16 19:19, Rick McCallister wrote:
> >>
> >> > Polish would seem to be the most conservative
> >> Slavic
> >> > language in the sense that it preserves nasals,
> >>
> >> You mean nasal vowels, I suppose. There's hardly
> any
> >> language that isn't
> >> conservative in SOME respects. For example,
> Slovene
> >> and both Sorbian
> >> languages still preserve the dual in nouns,
> >> adjectives, pronouns and
> >> verbs (Polish lost it a few centuries ago).
> Several
> >> Slavic languages
> >> (including Russian) have lexically/gramatically
> >> determined
> >> (phonologically free) stress or accent (Polish
> has
> >> developed an almost
> >> rigid rule of penult stress), Czech looks to me,
> >> impressionistically,
> >> more conservative than Polish in matters of
> >> vocabulary (but this may be
> >> an effect of the purist movement during the Czech
> >> National Revival in
> >> the early decades of the 19th c.). Nasal vowels
> were
> >> lost in East Slavic
> >> and the Czech/Slovak group pretty early, but
> other
> >> Slavic languages lost
> >> them one by one in more recent times.
> >>
> >> > has a
> >> > complex grammar (unlike much of S. Slavic) but
> I
> >> think
> >> > Piotr could answer that better.
> >>
> >> If you have Bulgarian in mind, and if by a
> complex
> >> grammar you
> >> understand complicated inflectional morphology,
> >> that's true. The
> >> Serbo-Croatian inflectional system is every inch
> as
> >> complex as, and more
> >> coservative than, that of Polish.
> >>
> >> Piotr
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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