Re: Brugmann's Law

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 51334
Date: 2008-01-17

He's from Nish but his parents are from Krajina. He
tells me that he has no problem communicating with
most Slavic languages but that Polish is by far the
most difficult but this may be Polish's unique
spelling system. He finds Ukrainian and Russian very
easy --slightly more dificult than Bulgarian. He says
Slovak is slightly easier for him than Czech but
Polish is much more difficult.
From he says, I'd think southern Slavic was closer to
Eastern Slavic --except that the relation may be due
to the effect of Old Church Slavonic. He tells me that
even curse words are the same in Southern and Eastern
Slavic --that in that whole region you can find
posters of Bush with a crown and the logo "Hail to the
Peace Duke"

--- Mate Kapoviæ <mkapovic@...> wrote:

> On Sri, sijeèanj 16, 2008 8:20 pm, Rick McCallister
> wrote:
> > I have a Serbian friend who tells me that Serbian
> is
> > conservative mainly at the text book level but
> that
> > the spoken language is much less complex and
> closer to
> > Bulgarian.
>
> If by spoken language you mean Southern Serbia, then
> yes. They don't have
> cases (that is, they have one oblique form), like
> Bulgarian. In Northern
> Serbia, the cases are intact.
>
> > He says Slovenian is much more complex and
> > seems like an "antiquated" form of Serbian. But
> that's
> > just hi intuition
>
> Depends what you're looking at. But actually, while
> Croatian and Serbian
> written form is pretty much what you get pronounced,
> in Slovene the normal
> pronunciation is quite different from the
> intentionally archaic writing
> system.
>
> Mate
>
> > --- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2008-01-16 19:19, Rick McCallister wrote:
> >>
> >> > Polish would seem to be the most conservative
> >> Slavic
> >> > language in the sense that it preserves nasals,
> >>
> >> You mean nasal vowels, I suppose. There's hardly
> any
> >> language that isn't
> >> conservative in SOME respects. For example,
> Slovene
> >> and both Sorbian
> >> languages still preserve the dual in nouns,
> >> adjectives, pronouns and
> >> verbs (Polish lost it a few centuries ago).
> Several
> >> Slavic languages
> >> (including Russian) have lexically/gramatically
> >> determined
> >> (phonologically free) stress or accent (Polish
> has
> >> developed an almost
> >> rigid rule of penult stress), Czech looks to me,
> >> impressionistically,
> >> more conservative than Polish in matters of
> >> vocabulary (but this may be
> >> an effect of the purist movement during the Czech
> >> National Revival in
> >> the early decades of the 19th c.). Nasal vowels
> were
> >> lost in East Slavic
> >> and the Czech/Slovak group pretty early, but
> other
> >> Slavic languages lost
> >> them one by one in more recent times.
> >>
> >> > has a
> >> > complex grammar (unlike much of S. Slavic) but
> I
> >> think
> >> > Piotr could answer that better.
> >>
> >> If you have Bulgarian in mind, and if by a
> complex
> >> grammar you
> >> understand complicated inflectional morphology,
> >> that's true. The
> >> Serbo-Croatian inflectional system is every inch
> as
> >> complex as, and more
> >> coservative than, that of Polish.
> >>
> >> Piotr
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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