Re: Brugmann's Law

----- Original Message -----

From: Rick McCallister

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 2:02 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Brugmann's Law

Somewhere on the web, there is or was a list of K-R
words having to do with insects, vermin, and
amphibians that includes words from IE, AA,
Niger-Kordofanian et al. See cancer, crab, scorpion,
crevette, etc.
It seems to be one of those ubiquitous combinations
like K-L for "wheel, circle" and B-R for "boil", B-L
for "ball, round"

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@ wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Ryan
> To: cybalist@... s.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 8:10 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: Re: Re: [tied]
> Brugmann's Law
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: fournet.arnaud
> To: cybalist@... s.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [tied] Brugmann's Law
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>
> I agree :
> some times you learn more about the author.
>
> What about :
> Arabic &aqrub
> Greek skorpion
>
>
> ***
> What about it? ?aqrub is simply a noun form
> (?aCCuC) of the root q-r-b.
> PCR
> ***
> I agree even more
> most of the time you learn more about the
> author.
>
> Root q_r_b is the same as in (s-)k_r_p
> the p in scorpion is another example of
> correspondance with -b-.
> That was what I meant.
> Arnaud
> ============ ===
> Arabic [?] "glottal stop" is one of the form of
> H2.
> And so are most glottalized emphatics of Semitic
> excepted p? > PIE *b and t? fused with d > PIE
> *d
> And k? fused with *g.
>
> ?ans "a man" = H2ner
> Etc
> Those who think H1 is [?] would better change
> their minds
> as soon as possible.
> They are on the wrong track.
>
> Arnaud
>
> ***
>
> There is no *H1, *H2, *H3 (nor *H4), IMHO.
> ===========
> I don't understand this statement
> Quite obviously most IE languages keep traces of
> at least three different classes of phonemes, that
> have had different impacts on their surroundings :
> length, voice, color, tone, etc.
> ============ ======
> The language from which PIE developed had four
> laryngeal/pharyngea ls: /?/, /h/, /¿/, and /h./;
> ============
> It had at least these.
> And some others.
> "Laryngeals" is a misleading word
> Not all disappeared phonemes are "laryngeal"
> they are functionally "laryngeal" but
> phonetically
> they are not "laryngeal".
> Arnaud
> ============ ========= ===
>
> and three vowels: /e/, /a/, /o/.
> =====
> Arnaud
> Obviously wrong.
> [a] is just allophonic of /e/.
> or vice-versa.
> ============ ==
>
> /?/ and /h/ and /h./ become PIE *H which
> lengthens the vowel, subsequently maintaining its
> quality. *e:, *a:, and *o: can subsequently be
> shortened.
> /¿/ becomes *y but occasionally *ø with vowel
> lengthening.
> Initial *ø becomes /?/ in the Germanic branch of
> IE.
> Conventionally written *H2ner- derived from
> earlier **hano-r(o), 'strong' (Egyptian nr, 'fear
> inspiring').
> Patrick
> ***
> ==========
> This is non sense
> Not a word of it is worth considering
> Arnaud
> ============ =
>
> .
>
>
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>

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