Re: Etruscans

From: george knysh
Message: 51258
Date: 2008-01-14

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> Mr. Knysh
> you are a strange "historian"
> if I understood well your job.

****GK: One has to be "strange" when conversing with
strange individuals.****
>
> Your "proof" is that the hypothesis
> that Etruscans might have come from somewhere else
> is true as of right now
> because it might happen in the future to be proved
> right.

****GK: What I actually said is that the proof
provided earlier is almost certainly adequate (as was
that of the Dereivka horsehead dating), and that
current doubts in some quarters will likely not
stand.****

> I'm sorry
> I don't believe in promises
> I thought history was a serious science dealing with
> facts.

****GK: Yes. It would be nice if you remembered this
before your "full stops" et sim...****

> Alleging an article in a newspaper doesn't sound
> serious at all.

****GK: Certainly more serious (given what is cited in
the article) than your "views" about the Jews of
Murlo.****
>
> So far you have not answered my questions :
>
> The major problem for any theory that makes
> Etruscans arrive from somewhere else is teleology.
> People with a known capacity of moving somewhere
> else : PIE, Vikings, English, Romans, Greeks.

****GK: Jews, Arabs, Turkis, Ugrians, Magyars,
Russians, Bantus, Chinese, with a large number of
etceteras.****

All
> these people settled in *many* places : They did not
> move from place A to place B. They scattered from
> place A to places B C D etc.
> So the problem with the non-autochtonous theory is
> at least four-fold :
> - where from ?

****GK: Lydia sounds like a good hypothesis. As
defensible as autochtonism, particularly if one does
not exclude an adstrate-type migrationism.****

> - when did they move ?

****GK: Within the "cattle" parameters mentioned by
Rick.****

> - why is it we have no traces of Etruscans somewhere
> else ?

****GK: For reasons similar to those which led to the
disappearance of many other ancient populations.****

> - why is it Etruscans precisely chose only Etruria,
> when they had plenty of places to choose from (Cf
> Phoenicians)

****GK: Probably because they did not have you as
their advisor.****
>
> I am still waiting for something more that a fuzzy
> article in NYT.

****GK: Happy waiting. I on the other hand have long
since stopped waiting for a refutation of Caesar which
goes beyond your usual flatus vocis. Have a nice life!
Over and out.****
>
> Arnaud
>
>



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