From: Rick McCallister
Message: 50951
Date: 2007-12-19
> Arnaud :__________________________________________________________
> This prefix- d (from a glottalized t?)
> is the same prefix as Berber medio-passive suffix
> #t?(w)-
> It is not a preposition.
> I'm not competent as regards Albanian,
> but it is extremely interesting to notice
> that this language displays a large number
> of instances of #d- versus zero.
>
> Arnaud
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick McCallister
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Illyrian-Albanian prefix d-
>
>
> In this particular case I'd say look at the /l/ >
> /d/
> change in Latin and think whether or not whatever
> produced it (subtrate?) also existed in Albanian
> and/or -for lack of a better name- Paleo-Balkan
> languages
>
> --- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
>
> > Arnaud to Abdullah :
> > I suggest you have one more look at :
> > akru versus d- akru "tear"
> > Obviously, PIE had a #d- prefix,
> > but standard PIE theory does not allow prefixes.
> >
> > Arnaud
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Abdullah Konushevci
> > To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 12:40 AM
> > Subject: [Courrier indésirable] [tied]
> > Illyrian-Albanian prefix d-
> >
> >
> > Writing about Albanian place-name Shkalla e
> Dunjas
> > (Watery Stair) I
> > have noticed that we have to deal with prefixed
> > form d-unj-as (for
> > suffix -as cf. Mamuras, Përrenjas, Bishkas),
> where
> > -unj- is oldest
> > form of Alb ujë `water'. Same prefix I have
> > noticed also in Alb
> > place-name Vau i Dejës `Deja's Ford', attested
> > form dain-ja, lat.
> > Daigna, where d- is also prefix, as we could see
> > from Ain-ona/Aen-ona.
> > Same root we notice in Alb place-name Bar-aina
> > etc.
> > Having in mind that we have for nasalized
> > zero-grade form of *reiH-
> > `to flow, run' the form *rin- and suffixed forms
> > *ril- and *rei-wo- I
> > came to conclusion that Illyrian/Alb river names
> > Drinus, Drilon are
> > indeed prefixed form d- + ril- and d- + rin- as
> > well as Drivastum
> > (mod. Drisht) from d- + riv-astum. For the form
> > Drilon and Drivastum
> > exists also other prefixed forms K-ril-evë and
> > K-riv-açë.
> > Same phenomenon I have noticed in Illyrian
> fortess
> > name Dabanos (Proc.
> > De aed. IV, 4), that seems by all chances to be
> a
> > prefixed form d- ab
> > `water'-anos, attested also in Dardanian
> > place-names Dabesh-ec,
> > Dab-in-oc, Dab-koc and brook-name Dab-oc.
> > Prefix d- in Albanian has intensifying function:
> > rojë `guard', d-rojë
> > `dismay, shyness', dboj `expel, banish' (cf.
> zboj
> > `id.'), dborë
> > `snow', besides borë `id.', zborës, dlir `to
> > purify' from adj. i lirë
> > `free', dvarr `to hurt, wound' (cf. Alb. varrë
> > `wound') etc.
> >
> > So, to conclude: d- + root
> >
> > *rin- > Illyrian/Albanian river name Drinum
> > *ril- > Illyrian/Albanian revers name Drilon,
> > Drilo (cf. also above
> > K-ril-evë)
> > *rei-wo- > Illyrian/Albanian river name
> Drivastum
> > (cf. also above
> > K-riv-açë)
> > *ab- > Illyrian/Albanian Dabanos (cf. also above
> > Dab-anos, Dab-oc,
> > Dab-inoc, Dab-koc)
> > *roi-na: > Illyrian/Albanian river names
> Dren-ica,
> > Dren-oc etc.
> >
> > Konushevci
> >
> >
> >
> >
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