] Re: [tied] apples on a stick

Yes, a quince --as pointed out in the Wikipedia
article I included.
I know it's the holiday season but don't infuse
yourselves so much with the spirit of Grinch and
Scrooge.
According to Wikip- the quince was around in Greece
and Asia Minor before the apple and seems to have been
superceded by it.
The only quince I'm familar with are the big sour ones
with a sweet smell used for jam or marmelade --so
unless there are sweet varieties, I can definitely see
why.
In Spanish it's called membrillo and usually candied
or made into marmelade --in Latin America at least.

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> Arnaud to Ryan bouche de merde,
>
> Lisan has :
> safarj and safarjal : a fruit "coing"
> and tree of safarjal : "cognassier"
>
> I have not found "bouche de merde" meaning
> That is to say "mouth-shit" "mund scheise"
>
> I suppose this is an autobiographical assessment
> explaining what you are.
> I am sorry,
> But I am beyond mental age three "shit and piss"
> stage.
> Get a rendez-vous with your psychiatrist.
>
> Arnaud
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Patrick Ryan
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 12:29 AM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] apples
> on a stick
>
>
>
> The striking similarity of the Akkadian supurgillu
> to superglue leads me to ask if any cuneiform record
> remains of reducing quince pulp (by heating?) for
> use as a superior adhesive?
>
> I have checked Lisan for safarjal but it gives
> only: "merde de bouche". Was the quince perhaps
> chewed before heating?
>
> Patrick Ryan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: tgpedersen
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] apples on a stick
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com,
> "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Arnaud to Wonder Warthogs :
> >
> > I am still in need of some good old
> explanations
> > about this one and only word for the "apple"
> thing.
> > I will be gladdestmost to understand what :
> >
> > *abel, *(u-)mar, *maH2-l, *waH1-l and sagar
> >
> > have in common ??
> > You mean these are one word ??
> > What could a proto-word accounting for these
> data sound like ?
> > Please suggest something.
> > Don't be afraid. Be laughable does not kill.
> >
> > I quote :
> > ========
> > "How anybody would show that this is not a
> > Wanderwort (ie.> well-traveled loanword) I
> can't fathom.
> > Torsten
> > ===========
> > They do not look at all like one and only
> word...
> > they aren't a wanderwort because they aren't
> even one same word.
> >
> > Please explain this story about a
> well-travelled loanword.
> >
> > I love stories and fairytales.
> >
> > Arnaud
> > ===================
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2pj8qo
> >
> > Mordvin : (u-)mar "apple"
> > (NB : not a loanword from indo-iranian :
> should be mal)
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/yu2cs4
>
> > PIE : maH2l "apple"
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/2h9rnv
> >
> > Kartvelian : *wash-l
> > I will reconstruct this one step further as
> > *waH1-l
>
> I have tinyurl-ed your references for you, you
> should do it yourself
> in the future.
>
> > Anatolian : sam-l-
> >
> > Basque : sagar
> >
>
> And for quince, it seems, Akkadian supurgillu,
> Arabic safarjal.
>
> Here's my try, including all the above:
>
> *(s^)an,W(a)l-
>
> Torsten
>
>
>
>
>
>

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