From: Rick McCallister
Message: 50678
Date: 2007-12-03
> The name Amerigo is well attested. There is for__________________________________________________________
> example a noted individual, Amerigo di Filippo
> Cavalcanti who was a wealthy merchant with interests
> in 14th century Naples and Athens. His granddaughter
> Ginevra di Giovanni di Amerigo married Lorenzo de'
> Medici il Popolano.
>
> There are many documents that mention ser Amerigo,
> and they never mispell the name. The confusion
> probably arose because both names sound quite
> similar.
>
> These 14th century Italian names are fascinating:
> take Laudomia. It's misinterpreted as ``laudation of
> the house.'' In fact it stems from Greek laodámia,
> lady tamer of the people (the current head of the
> Pucci enterprises is Laudomia Pucci, I think).
>
> And - how about Gugliarello? Riccomanno?
>
> Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> escreveu:
> I've also seen Amerigo
> as from Alberigo "all bright"
>
> --- Francisco Antonio Doria <doriagen@...>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm going to check it. It's rather obscure, like
> > Haimrich > Amerigo, ou Nibelung > Napoleone.
> >
> > "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> escreveu:
>
> >
> > Aleramo could be from Germanic All- "all".
> >
> > ----- Mensagem original ----
> > De: Francisco Antonio Doria
> <doriagen@...>
> > Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> > Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 30 de Novembro de 2007
> > 11:27:43
> > Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [tied] Re: Etimology of
> > Hellene
> >
> > My own guess is that it
> is
> > derived from Helléne. Liguria has a tradition for
> > weird first names: Aleramo, Napoleone (very
> common
> > among the Lomellini), for example. I don't recall
> > the actual etimology for Aleramo, but Napoleone
> is
> > derived from... Nibelung!
> >
> > (Later the Orsini adopted Napoleone as one of
> their
> > main first names.)
> >
> > The Counts Nibelung were a side branch of the
> > Carolingians; their seat was at Nivelles,
> Belgium,
> > whereas their name. Later a pop etimology was
> > concocted: out of Nebel, mist.
> >
> > "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@... com.br>
> escreveu:
> >
> > Hi, Francisco!
> > Perhaps a cross of Juliana with Hellena?
> >
> > ----- Mensagem original ----
> > De: Francisco Antonio Doria <doriagen@...
> com.br>
> > Para: cybalist@... s.com
> > Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 30 de Novembro de 2007
> > 4:20:09
> > Assunto: Re: Res: [tied] Re: Ethymology of
> Hellene
> >
> > Hi, João :))
> >
> > And the derivation of (Ligurian, middle ages)
> > Eliano/Eliana from Helléne ?
> >
> > "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@... com.br>
> escreveu:
> >
> > Hellens' eponym is Helle:n. Would be it linked to
> > Helle: (cf. Hellespontos) ?
> > Sedla:n- < *Sedla:-
> > Hellas (-ad-) < *Sedla(:)-d-
> > Maybe Helle:n < *Sedla-wen- ?
> >
> > Maybe Hellas meant *SedlaH "the settlement", or
> "the
> > colony", or something like that...
> >
> > ----- Mensagem original ----
> > De: stlatos <stlatos@... com>
> > Para: cybalist@... s.com
> > Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 28 de Novembro de 2007
> > 0:36:06
> > Assunto: [tied] Re: Ethymology of Hellene
> >
> > --- In
> cybalist@...
> > s.com, "homermakedonski"
> > <homermakedonski@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > > A more scientific
> > > approach considers this an aitiological myth
> > > <http://www.biologyd aily.com/
> biology/Aitiolog
> > y> , placing the origin of
> > > the name in Epirus <http://www.biologyd
> aily.com/
> > biology/Epirus> , the
> > > land of the Dorians <http://www.biologyd
> > aily.com/ biology/Dorians> ,
> > > where people were called Selloi or Helloi. The
> > etymology of the term is
> > > *sedlenes, meaning "settlers"
> >
> > This is probably basically correct, though I'd
> say
> > it was a
> > derivation from noun *sed(t)lo+ 'seat' >> verb
> > *sedlax+ 'settle' >>
> > noun *sedlaxno+s 'settler' which was put into
> the
> > C-stems later.
> >
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