From: Rick McCallister
Message: 50672
Date: 2007-12-03
> I'm going to check it. It's rather obscure, like____________________________________________________________________________________
> Haimrich > Amerigo, ou Nibelung > Napoleone.
>
> "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@...> escreveu:
>
> Aleramo could be from Germanic All- "all".
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Francisco Antonio Doria <doriagen@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 30 de Novembro de 2007
> 11:27:43
> Assunto: Re: Res: Res: [tied] Re: Etimology of
> Hellene
>
> My own guess is that it is
> derived from Helléne. Liguria has a tradition for
> weird first names: Aleramo, Napoleone (very common
> among the Lomellini), for example. I don't recall
> the actual etimology for Aleramo, but Napoleone is
> derived from... Nibelung!
>
> (Later the Orsini adopted Napoleone as one of their
> main first names.)
>
> The Counts Nibelung were a side branch of the
> Carolingians; their seat was at Nivelles, Belgium,
> whereas their name. Later a pop etimology was
> concocted: out of Nebel, mist.
>
> "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@... com.br> escreveu:
>
> Hi, Francisco!
> Perhaps a cross of Juliana with Hellena?
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: Francisco Antonio Doria <doriagen@... com.br>
> Para: cybalist@... s.com
> Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 30 de Novembro de 2007
> 4:20:09
> Assunto: Re: Res: [tied] Re: Ethymology of Hellene
>
> Hi, João :))
>
> And the derivation of (Ligurian, middle ages)
> Eliano/Eliana from Helléne ?
>
> "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@... com.br> escreveu:
>
> Hellens' eponym is Helle:n. Would be it linked to
> Helle: (cf. Hellespontos) ?
> Sedla:n- < *Sedla:-
> Hellas (-ad-) < *Sedla(:)-d-
> Maybe Helle:n < *Sedla-wen- ?
>
> Maybe Hellas meant *SedlaH "the settlement", or "the
> colony", or something like that...
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: stlatos <stlatos@... com>
> Para: cybalist@... s.com
> Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 28 de Novembro de 2007
> 0:36:06
> Assunto: [tied] Re: Ethymology of Hellene
>
> --- In cybalist@...
> s.com, "homermakedonski"
> <homermakedonski@ ...> wrote:
>
> > A more scientific
> > approach considers this an aitiological myth
> > <http://www.biologyd aily.com/ biology/Aitiolog
> y> , placing the origin of
> > the name in Epirus <http://www.biologyd aily.com/
> biology/Epirus> , the
> > land of the Dorians <http://www.biologyd
> aily.com/ biology/Dorians> ,
> > where people were called Selloi or Helloi. The
> etymology of the term is
> > *sedlenes, meaning "settlers"
>
> This is probably basically correct, though I'd say
> it was a
> derivation from noun *sed(t)lo+ 'seat' >> verb
> *sedlax+ 'settle' >>
> noun *sedlaxno+s 'settler' which was put into the
> C-stems later.
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