Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

From: tgpedersen
Message: 50120
Date: 2007-09-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
>
> Actually Scandinvia & W Baltic: Sweden, Denmark, Lower
> Saxony, Pomorze --Jastorf, right?

Usually, on the maps I've seen, Jastorf is considered to cover (Lower)
Saxony (appr.) and Jutland, no more, so no.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/11581
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/31527, cf
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/30336
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/41514
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/41613 ,
but not necessarily Slavic
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/41651
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/41690
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/41738


> Germanic began to split up sometime around 500 BC,
> right?

No. Runic has been characterized as almost pure Proto-Germanic, and
Grimm hasn't yet happened in some locales in Western Germania in
Caesar's time, so much later, eg. 50 BCE.


> And it spread out from there, right?

As far as I'm concerned, it (at least NWGermanic) spread from Thuringia.


> In (continental) Scandinavia, the previous inhabitants
> spoke Uralic, namely Saami (and Finnish in Finland),
> right?

Place names don't back that up in Southern Scandinavia.


> And who knows what they spoke in Denmark and Pomorze,
> right?

People who look at maps think water divides cultures. That's wrong,
especially at that time it united them. The 'Southern Scandinavia' of
various Great Minds outside Scandinavia was culturally connected with
Denmark (and politically until 1658). I can of course repeat that
until I get blue in the face, those outside opinions reinvent
themselves again every time.


> Maybe "Folkish"?, maybe "Apple language", who knows,
> right?

Vennemann has proposed 'Atlantic', ie. AfroAsiatic etymologies for
both words.


Torsten