Re: [tied] Latin m>w, w>m

If you were an American, I'd say "put away the crack
pipe" on your Aiguptos idea.
Ionian < ion --see what /yon, ion/ means
Shams vs. *sawel --I think you'd better go back to AA
on that puppy
While I think Bernal is out in left field, there were
important contributions from Semitic and Egyptian to
Greeek civilization
And families from those countries may well have formed
part of the Greek ruling class in pre-classical times.
And fleets from those countries may well have
impressed or intimidated the Greeks enough for them to
remember them in their mythology.

NOW, my crackpot idea.
The name Miriam, Maryam, Mary, Marie, etc. is
traditionally linked to Hebrew mar yam "bitter sea".
This does not sound at all like a name you'd want to
give your daughter.
I'm guessing it more likely comes from Egyptian mery
"beloved" + some suffix or other word. Any ideas?
Yes, I know it's not IE and so, I apologize.


--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> Also w > m after ru:
>
> *dakYru 'tear'
> *dakYrwax > *dakY-u-wax 'tears'
> ==================
> A.F :
> An interesting possibility is that
> this morpheme is actually from *m? (glottalized m).
>
> As is :
> *sam? "sun" :
> PIE saw-(el/n) = Semitic sham(sh)
> *yam? "sea"
> Semitic yam = Greek yaw-ani "those of the sea" =
> Ionians.
>
> Ionians are yaw-ani and also ahhijawi : "those of
> the (z)aghva = sea"
> and lead by Aigu-Ptos : the Potis of the (Z)aghv(a)
> : Sea-master.
> Another name of these yawani/ahhijawi is Pelasges :
> the full sea : pelH1 -zghva = pela-sgos
> And the Aegian Sea is the zaghva-ian Sea (the
> Sea-Sea)
>
> Two conclusions :
>
> 1. I don't believe a second Kartvelian could ever
> come from some other place,
> in the East of Caucasus.
> 2. Crazy ideas of Semitic or Egyptian origin for
> Greece civilization are absurd.
> Ionians are ya-w-ani (100% PIE) not yemenites (100%
> Semitic).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: stlatos
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 5:31 AM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Latin
> m>w, w>m
>
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen
> <stlatos@...> wrote:
>
> > wegWof ..... mlixwos ... pYloudhom
> > >
> > wegWos ..... mli:wos ... plouthom
> > wogWos ..... mli:wos ... plouthom
> > wowos ...... mli:wos ... plouthom
> > wowos ...... wli:wos ... plouthom
> > wuwos ...... wli:wos ... plouthom
> > u:wos ...... wli:wos ... plouthom
> > u:wos ...... wli:wos ... plouTom
> > u:wos ...... wli:wos ... ploufom
> > u:wos ...... wli:wos ... plouvom
> > u:wos ...... wli:wos ... ploubom
> > u:wos ...... wli:wos ... plombom
> > u:mos ...... wli:wos ... plombom
> > u:mos ...... li:wos .... plombom
>
> Also w > m after ru:
>
> *dakYru 'tear'
> *dakYrwax > *dakY-u-wax 'tears'
>
> *dakY-u-wax ana> *dakY-ru-wax > dacruma
>
> And in Germanic:
>
> *druwo+ 'wooden, hard, strong, steady'
>
> *truma+ > OE trum
>
>
>
>

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