--- In
cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Francesco Brighenti" <frabrig@...>
wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > The pig is older than that.
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/37283
> > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/37222
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> But see the Proto-Dene-Caucasian reconstruction for 'pig' proposed
> by John Bengtson at
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> http://jdbengt.net/articles/CILL30a.pdf
> (see on p. 12 and n. 124 in the PDF document)
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> According to Bengtson, Basque <urde> 'pig' appears to be cognate
> with Proto-Caucasian <*wHa:rtl'wV> id. (Hunzib <butlu>, Lezgi
> <wak>).
And still Proto-Austronesian has *beRek "pig" which somehow must be
related. A claim that this word is not a loan amounts to a claim that
the speakers of the hypothetical Dene-Caucasian knew the pig, which
are native to the South East Asian islands.
Further,
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PDC *bh.&´:ngV "pole, post" >
Bsq *mak- "cane, stick, club, pole" >
(c) makila "cane, stick",
(B) maket "club, very thick pole" : (cf. Bezhta maq "stake")
Bezhta maq "stake",
Abkhaz a-bq!W "post, pillar", etc. (NCED 295);
Bur. *-phá¦o "cane, walking-stick" > (H) -phá¦o, (N) -phá¦uù;
PST *phV¯k "rod, stick" (STD I: #323)
and/or *p(h)a¢ "tree, plant" (STD I: #241).
The resemblance to Latin baculum, bacillum is coincidental.
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Really?
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PDC *He:nqwV´ "meadow" > Bsq *angio "(fenced) pasture" > (B) angio
Khinalug ánqa `field',
Bezhta ö¨ä `small plot of land', etc. (NCED 561);
PY *?oGV `meadow' (SSEJ 197).
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cf. German Anger, Danish eng "meadow".
Vennemann has compared them to Basque angio.
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PDC *xqam(x)q(w)a "joint, bend" >
Bsq *kunku-> > (AN,BN,R,Z) kunkur "hump knob", (R) "joint (of bones)"
Tabasaran q´amq´ `knee',
Abkhaz a- q´Wáq´Wa `hip-bones', etc. (NCED 908);
PST *kuk `bend' (STD V: #270; cf. LDC #43).
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cf.
http://www.angelfire.com/rant/tgpedersen/Hng.html
> Did Early Neolithic Dene-Caucasian speakers bring and pigs and
> agriculture into Southeast Europe from Anatolia?
Or did pigs come by sea?
Torsten