Re: Re[4]: [tied] Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

Pre-Roman, not pre-IE, my mistake
Even though Trask pointed out that much of Basque
toponymy is of Celtic origin and possibly even the
word Basque, he only considered about 5 or 10 Basque
words to be of Celtic origin and refused to consider
any other possible pre-Roman IE languages that were
known to be in the area such as Lusitanian and
Ligurian

--- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:

> At 11:59:07 PM on Wednesday, September 19, 2007,
> Rick
> McCallister wrote:
>
> > --- "Brian M. Scott" <BMScott@...> wrote:
>
> >> At 4:06:52 PM on Wednesday, September 19, 2007,
> Rick
> >> McCallister wrote:
>
> >>> I'd look at the IE root of Latin verres (vel.
> sim.) for
> >>> these. Basque urde seems to be from Latin.
>
> >> According to Larry Trask it's an indigenous
> Basque word;
> >> see
>
> >>
>

<http://www.buber.net/Basque/Euskara/Larry/WebSite/basque.sketch.html>

>
> >> in the section 'Lexicon'. (And I wouldn't trust
> >> *anything* from John Bengtson.)
>
> > Trask did not believe in pre-IE loans into Basque
> > --and I think was an error.
>
> It also appears to be irrelevant, since you're
> considering
> IE sources (Latin, Celtic). And he most certainly
> acknowledged large numbers of loans from Latin. I
> very much
> doubt that this pig will fly.
>
> > I'd at least give it a try and see if works, and
> if Latin
> > verres doesn't work, I'd consider some other IE
> language:
> > e.g. Celtic or Lusitanian because it looks close
> to IE
>
> Brian
>
>
>

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