From: Rick McCallister
Message: 49981
Date: 2007-09-19
> The main fact is that____________________________________________________________________________________
> most Greek dialects have ippos or hippos,
> which does not follow the standard isoglosses
> and ikkos also exists.
> This just proves that this word and this animal
> entered Greek reality after Greek dialects
> had already acquired (most of) their features.
>
> Even though this word is probably an indo-european
> creation based on H_kw "fast" (by a particular
> language)
> it is not common PIE.
> PIE was already scattered when this word was
> created.
> What about Tokharian yäkw as the base for *ikwos >
> ippos ?
>
> This word Hekwos is not common PIE
> and *mar-ko is not either.
>
> And that's it.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joao S. Lopes
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 1:00 AM
> Subject: Res: Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed
> as Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
>
> etos, no!
>
> eqo- > *epo-, eqe- > ete-
>
> Perhaps Epeios, who made theTrojan Horse < *epos
> <*h1ekwos
>
>
> ----- Mensagem original ----
> De: fournet.arnaud <fournet.arnaud@...>
> Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 17 de Setembro de 2007
> 16:18:04
> Assunto: Re: Re: [tied] Renfrew's theory renamed
> as Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
>
> supposedly *Hekwos :
>
> LAtin equus ok
> Gaulish epo- ok
>
> Greek : ikkos, hikkos
> should be etos (attic) or epos (dorian)
> Conclusion : Totally F... up.
>
> Hittite : obviously an Iranian loanword.
>
> Sanscrit : ashvas
> should be akas.
> Won again...
>
> Have you ever heard about Phonetic Correspondances
> as the founding principle of Comparatism ?
> Please read your Classics for Epistemological
> reference.
> This word is a shame on the face of
> Indo-Europeanists.
>
> "It shows every sign of being
> inherited from PIE." : Every sign of being not.
>
> ===========
> Next :
>
> *markos
> supposedly a cognate limited to Celtic and
> Germanic.
> Looks healthy.
> Is worth no good.
>
> Asiatic languages for Mongolian to Chinese to
> Burmese
> point toward -o- as the vowel in this word :
> "horse"
> *mor is the first step toward reconstruction
>
> Next step : Chinese Mandarin is third tone : ma3
> => hence glottal stop final.
> so the reconstruction should be *mor-?-
> that is PIE equivalent : *mor-H2-
>
> We need a language within PIE where o > a
> and r-H2-k > r-k with no vocalic traces.
>
> I suggest proto-Germanic as a good candidate
> and this is one more indication
> that Germanic was in a very eastern position.
> between Asiatic languages and European languages.
>
> ============ ========
>
> All this neolithic data amount to nothing at all.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Wordingham
> To: cybalist@... s.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 10:27 PM
> Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied]
> Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian
>
>
> --- In cybalist@... s.com,
> "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@ ...>
> wrote:
>
> > Most "neolithic" words in PIE are limited
> geographically and don't
> even pass phonological controls : Cf. the absurd
> Hekwos horse : this
> word is obviously not a cognate but a
> wanderwort, with huge phonetic
> distortions.
>
> But what tell-tale irregularities? It shows
> every sign of being
> inherited from PIE.
>
> Richard.
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