Re: [tied] tt/st/ss

From: stlatos
Message: 49942
Date: 2007-09-17

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen <stlatos@...> wrote:

> *u_ttèrós > Skt úttara- 'upper'
> *u_ttèrós > Gk hústeros 'latter', hustéra: 'womb'
>
> *u_ttèrós u_ttr+ mix> Latin uterus 'womb'
>
> *u_ttr+ > Alb uth 'heartburn < *swollen stomach'
> *Ló+ met> cullë 'belly, stomach'
> *u_ttr+ > Gk hústros 'belly, stomach'

> The change *ttr>tr in Latin is ev. against *tstr;
> Albanian shows *tt>st>ts as I argue for Western IE.
>
> See earlier:
>
> --- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> > *ud- `up, out'. 1. Alb cullë `belly, stomach,
> > abdomen' from suffixed
> > extended form *uds-uleH2. 2. Alb uth `heartburn,
> > impetigo' from *uds-
> > o: Latin uterus `abdomen, womb': Greek huderos
> > `dropsy' (<*swollen
> > stomach): Avestan udara `stomach': Sanskrit udara-
> > `stomach' and
> > *udstero-: Greek hustera: `womb', hustros `stomach',
> > Toch B
> > wästarye `liver'. (Pokorny u:d- 1103.)
>
> Since d/t regularly become z/s before stops in most
> IE languages I don't think any *-s suffix is needed.
> The most likely change is:
>
> udtero+s (with weak stem udtr(e)+)
>
> udtr(e)+ ..
> uttr(e)+ ..
> ustr(e)+ ..
> utsr(e)+ ..
> utsr(e)+ .. utsLo+ (form diminutive)
> utTr(e)+ .. utsLo+
> utT(e)+ ... utsLo+
> utT(e)+ ... tsuLo+
> uT(e)+ .... tsuLo+

Also the much more clearly related changes in:

*psuutu+s 'roundness > hollowness'
*psuutLo+s '(a little) rounded > bowl-like > empty inside'

psuutus .... psuutLos
psu:tus .... psu:tLos
fsu:tus .... fsu:tLos
fu:stus .... fu:stLos
fu:stus .... fu:tsLos
fu:s^tus ... fu:tsLos
fy:s^tus ... fy:tsLos
etc.
fys^të ..... fytsL
fys^të ..... fyLts

fyshtë ..... fyllc