Re: Renfrew's theory renamed as Vasco-Caucasian

From: OctaviĆ  Alexandre
Message: 49924
Date: 2007-09-16

--- In, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> --- In, OctaviĆ  Alexandre oalexandre@ wrote:
> >
> > The so-called Vasco-Caucasian hypothesis puts the common ancestor of
> > Proto-Vasconic and Proto-NEC (and, in the Macro-Caucasian variant,
> > even of Burushaski and North-West Caucasian) in the early Neolithic
> > or late Mesolithic, making it a good candidate for the agricultural
> > spreading theory. In this, Vasconic (comprising Basque-Aquitanian,
> > Iberian and other extinct languages spoken in Sardinia and the Alps)
> > would be one of the earliest Vasco-Caucasian branches, possibly
> > associated with the spread of Cardial Ceramics.
> Corded ware?
No, Cardial ware. A West Mediterranen Neolithic culture.

> > But other Vasco-Caucasian branches have also existed as well, even

> > in the same Iberian peninsula. Possibly other substrata like the
> > Nord-West Block or the pre-IE Germanic would fall in this. And I'm
> > convinced that *akWa/apa isn't IE but Vasco-Caucasian.
> From what do you derive that conviction?

I wrote before about this:

I think you've got tough memory.


> > I also recommend you to forget Vennemann. He seems more a
> > TV-predicator than a linguist (I think it has something to do with
> > German scholastic tradition).
> I didn't know that the Germans had a scholastic tradition of TV
> predicators. Please explain.
Well, if you poke about his site you'll find some Powerpoint files about his courses. It's only my impression about him.

> > The only thing I would spare is his "Atlantidic",

> 'Atlantic', actually.
Never mind.

> > a supposed Afro-Asiatic substrate language akin to

> > Berber (but not to Semitic!!!),
> Vennemann calls it Semitic, not Berber.
Apparently, for him Afro-Asiatic was reduced to Semitic.

> > probably linked to the spread of

> > megalithism along the Atlantic coast.
> I don't think he mentions that.
Of course, because this is my theory.