Re: [tied] Re: morsha

I like the "swollen" motif, especially given that
balls were inflated animal bladders. In Guatemala and
El Salvador, balloons are still called "vejigas" or
"bladders". Can you imagine putting your mouth to a
pig bladder to blow it up?
So ballaena "swollen thing, bladder like critter"
So we have balls, flowers, blooms, blossoms, Latin and
Greek whales, Spanish starfruit (carambola) all from
the same root - That's swell!

--- Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

> On 2007-09-07 03:17, stlatos wrote:
>
> > Is it really likely that a supposed & would > u
> instead of > a in
> > Germanic?
>
> Yes, as in *Guman-. The development of Lindeman's
> epenthetic segment
> resembles the ordinary development of syllabic
> consonants in all
> branches and is indistinguishable from that of
> *CR.HV-.
>
> > Why do both Greek and Germanic show both ll and l?
>
> *bH&lVn-/*bHl.n- > *Bulan-/*Bull- > *Bulan- (OE, ON)
> ~ *Bullan- (MHG).
> Both in Germanic and Greek *-ln- > -ll-, so little
> wonder that -ll-
> crops up in both. Where a different pattern of
> vocalisation prevents
> *-l.n- from assimilation, you can see both
> consonats, as in Geg blini.
>
> > Your explanation requires n in all the words, but
> there are clearly
> > two different sets, one ending in -on- and used
> for an animal. Are
> > you saying those with -ln- are derived from this?
> It's almost
> > certainly the other way around ('swollen' >> 'a
> swollen animal').
>
> I've been trying to propose a common base precisely
> for those that refer
> to big/fat animals. Of course the semantic
> development is as above. I
> don't suggest it's otherwise, or deny the fact that
> the root *bHel- has
> other derivatives not involving a nasal suffix.
>
> Piotr
>
>

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