Re: [tied] Re: morsha

It's an interesting idea squalus and ku-l but squalus
and whale et al are not just any fish -they're
leviathans and I'd bet there were no leviathan sized
denizens of the deep either anywhere near the Urals
Something that makes me wonder is the source of
ballaena is the same root as ball
So maybe whale and squalus are somehow derived from
*kwVl- the root of "wheel, circle, etc" i.e. "big,
round thing" but I wouldn't bet any real money on it
ikhthus doesn't strike me as very close to Uralic ku-l
given that Uralic only goes back to c. 2000 BC or so
(from what I've read)
a wild guess would be a- "not" dhghV "land" --which at
least makes a nice folk etymology

--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> Uralic *ku-l "fish" is most probably related to the
> loanword T-ghu "fish"
> into Central PIE.
> Squalus versus *kul shines like gold but it 's
> Pyrite.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick McCallister
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 10:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [tied] Re: morsha
>
>
> No, more like it's likely related to Latin
> squalus,
> maybe somehow related to balaena
>
> --- Peter P <roskis@...> wrote:
>
> > The wal- (of walrus) may be loan from Uralic.
> >
> > Finn. kala - fish
> > Mord. kal - fish
> > Hung. hal - fish
> > Saami guolle - fish
> > Vogul hu:l - fish
> >
> > Peter P
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick
> McCallister
> > <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > That's a far reach. As you know some have
> linked
> > > Uralic with Eskimo-Aleut
> > > BUT supposedly, morsha is pre-Uralic
> > > BTW: English walrus is supposed from Old
> Norwegian
> > > hval-hros "whale horse" (vel sim), do you put
> a
> > > bridle on the tusks?
> > > Other Scandinavian substrates words?
> > > I've seen that eider and rein(deer) are
> --although
> > > reindeer would have to be a folk etymology in
> > English,
> > > it spawned Spanish reno "reindeer" but
> "wapiti" or
> > > "pronghorn antilope" (gama in Mexican Spanish)
> in
> > SW
> > > US Spanish
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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