Re: [tied] Re: morsha

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 49843
Date: 2007-09-06

So, is Ancient Macedonian closer to Albanian or to
Greek?
I know the ancient Macedonians were Greek wannabes and
that modern Greeks are so convinced the Macedonians
were Greek they have conniption fits whenever anyone
mentions the "Republic of Macedonia".
But linguistically speaking, this /b/ vs /ph/ and
what not seems to distance Anc. Macedonian from Greek,
and suggest that it was likely a Mischsprache or
creole (or eventually became one).
Is there enough data in to tell? Obviously, what we
have would be what the elite spoke, si there may have
been some type of diglossia from Greek-flavored
Macedonian to Macedonian-flavored Greek.
Or was it close enough to NW Greek to say it was a
whack Greek dialect influenced by Illyrian or
Thriacian?
Supposedly, the ancient Macedonians came from the
west, present Epirus? or present Albania?
I'll leave it to you experts

--- alexandru_mg3 <alexandru_mg3@...> wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> >
> > On 2007-09-06 01:09, stlatos wrote:
> >
> > > I'd agree that whale and squalus are likely
> related,
> >
> > ... as is perhaps OPr. kalis 'sheatfish'...
> >
> > > but ballaena is
> > > from Gk phal(l)aina (or more likely a Mac. dia.
> form) which is
> almost
> > > certainly related to ball instead.
> >
> > Compare, in particular, the Albanian words for
> 'sturgeon', Tosk
> bli,
> > bliri, Geg blî, blini < *bHl.no- (cf. Gmc.
> *Bulla(-n)- 'bull'),
> which
> > throws light on the structure of Gk. pHálle:,
> pHál(l)aina, as well
> as
> > pHállos (all from *bHl.-n..).
> >
> > Piotr
> >
>
> So Romanian balaur, Piotr, would be from
> *bHl-n.-wo-wr-o > Dacian
> *balwaura > *ballaura > Romanian balaur, in this
> case ....
>
> Thanks for the feedback,
> Marius
>
>
>



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