Re: [tied] morsha

That's a far reach. As you know some have linked
Uralic with Eskimo-Aleut
BUT supposedly, morsha is pre-Uralic
BTW: English walrus is supposed from Old Norwegian
hval-hros "whale horse" (vel sim), do you put a
bridle on the tusks?
Other Scandinavian substrates words?
I've seen that eider and rein(deer) are --although
reindeer would have to be a folk etymology in English,
it spawned Spanish reno "reindeer" but "wapiti" or
"pronghorn antilope" (gama in Mexican Spanish) in SW
US Spanish



--- "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@...>
wrote:

> There are quite a couple of things to say about this
> word meaning "walrus".
>
> Sabme : morsha "walrus"
> Suomi-finnish : mursu
>
> Eskimo-Alutiq has :
> Walrus : aswuq
> Coast Salish, neighbor to Alutiq has :
> Seal : ?asxw (loanword)
>
> REf :
> Kuipers, SAlish etymological dictionary
> Fortescue and Alias, Comparative Eskimo Dictionary
>
> According to this, it is tempting to cut the word in
> two parts :
> Morpheme 1 : mor-
> Morpheme 2 : -sha/-su
>
> Morpheme 2 could mean "sea mammal".
> from a kind of "Artic" (=Eskimo) wander-wort.
>
> Next point is :
> LAtin orca and Greek oruga "kind of (killer-)whale"
> If we retro-evolved these two words, assuming they
> are Paleo-European,
> the expected form should be : *Ho(n)t?uk?-a "sea
> mammal, kind of whale".
> If we DARE compare this with Alutiq and Salish,
> we can make one more step toward assuming *?ot?uk?
>
> Compare :
> Arabic mi-t?ab : flint knife
> English s-tab
> Alutiq : tsav- knife.
>
> So the result of this is :
> Morpheme 2 looks like an Eskimoid word : *Hsu-q
> meaning Sea-mammal, kind of seal, walrus.
>
> Morpheme 1 is impossible in Eskimo and SAlish.
> The most simple seems to refer to a PIE base :
> *moH1-r = Big
> Cf. Celtic *mo:r "big"
> A walrus "mor-Hsu-k" being a big seal.
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> This word could be a compound made with
> a PIE (CEltic ?) word and a loanword from
> Proto-Eskimo.
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