Re: [tied] Belgians and Gauls

Péruwelz is interesting

It is pronounced [pyér-wé]

I have no reference for toponyms in Belgique/Belgie.

With a gun near my head, and Three seconds to save my life,

I would suggest : Petro-villare as a possibility

with an archaic preservation of initial -w- in -welz-

to be compared with a more Germanic sounding Peter(s)-Willer(s).

This archaic preservation of -w- is also attested in France :

Wierre-au-bois : Villare apud Boscum.

(near my beloved home-town Boulogne)

Other case : Wierre-Effroy.

Villare is a derivative of villa, as you must already know.

Maybe I failed to save my life this time...

----- Original Message -----

From: tgpedersen

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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 1:56 AM

Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: [tied] Belgians and Gauls

> If you are still not convinced, I can re-send you the relevant data
for each people and language.
>
> You say that this Northern France area has something to do with
> "Belgians".
> After all, so many people have come to this place so Why not this
> one ?
> but basically
> Could you please give me the relevant "Belgian" traces ?
> What is this people and language you keep talking about ?
> How can I reliably tell these "Belgian" traces
> from Norse, Saxon, Frankish, Gaulish, Flemish, Latin and Pre-Celtic
> traces ?
> Where are the "Belgians" settlements and towns and roads and rivers
> and market-places ?
> What is the chronology of arrival of the "Belgians", among all the
> other intruders ?
>
> These are the questions we are talking about.

Placenames in P- which are not obviously Latin. So far I've located
Pernes, Peronne, Péruwelz (Belgium). Do you have etymologies for them?

Torsten