Peryf

This idea is not the one I was defending so far

but it can be added that there is another tribe name

that is a little bit boastful too

Bitu-riges : kings of the world !!

So maybe this idea is the right one.

And it exhibits kw > p.

Good P-celt GAuls...

Not gwelgians.

----- Original Message -----

From: indravayu

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:30 PM

Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re: Fw: [tied] Pferd

> My questions are :
> How do you account for the fact that this "Parisii" tribe
> would be named in such a (strange) way ?

On the contrary, a name like "The Lords" (or, as they would say in
Yiddish, "The Machers") would be quite a normal for the ancient Celts.

> Do you have a Welsh or Irish tribe that is thus named ?

I have never looked into the matter (though, obviously, we have the
British Parisii).

> Can the -f- in "peryf" come from -s- as in *kwer_s_ ?

The final -f may be a later, dialectal variant, derived from an
earlier voiced dental fricative (spelled -dd in Modern Welsh - such
confusion between -f- and -dd- in Welsh is not unknown - and, as I
mentioned, perydd is an attested word with basically the same meaning
as peryf). This voiced dental fricative may come from a Brittonic
-isio- suffix.

A PIE *kWer-s- should produce Brittonic *perr-.

- Chris Gwinn