Re: Re Re: Fw: [tied] Pferd

Cesar wrote a book of self promotion and propaganda.

It is childish to think that this propaganda can be taken

as relevant ethnological data.

Cesar may not be happy to hear this

but I just think this division in three is BullShit.

It doesn't even mention Basks and Greeks !!

As for p-less etymology in supposedly "Belgian" :

remes < prem "those at the front".

Names in supposedly "Belgian" part of the country

that have clear-cut P-celt origin :

- oise

- somme

- Ambiani

- Morini

- Ardenne

- atrebates

- veromandi

Instead of relying on Cesar information,

I guess the first step is to have a reliable cartography of places

where Celts settlements are well attested

Before you try to cram things in a dichotomy, fallen from the sky.

As for potatoe and mayo,

it was imported and invented afterwards

So far, they have found a petrified wood boat.

----- Original Message -----

From: tgpedersen

To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:04 PM

Subject: [Courrier indésirable] Re Re: Fw: [tied] Pferd

--- In cybalist@... s.com, "fournet.arnaud" <fournet.arnaud@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Basically, when I wrote this
> I was meaning several points :
> 1. Paris can be derived from good P-celt Gaulish *kwr-s- "oak"

Hm.

> 2. I reject the proposed *par-is- "People on the Oise" as totally
> impossible.
Because?

> This meaning should be phoned "ar-isari (kos)"

> 3. I consider most tribes in the north of Paris to be good "P-celt"
> GAuls

On what grounds?

>especially in the Somme, Oise, and Artois departments.

The p-Celts were especially good in the Somme, Oise, and Artois
departments? Were they less good elsewhere?

> I am extremely skeptical as far as this dichotomy between Gauls and
> Belgians is concerned

I understand it must be a shock for a Frenchman to realize that his
capital is Belgian. Maybe future excavations on the Île de la Cité
will close the question by yielding a petrified frenchfrie with mayo.

> Because I consider in the first place that this word "GAul" is
> ethnolinguistically unclear

Caesar would be unhappy to learn you doubt his words.

> And this "Belgian" hypothesis sounds even more shaky.

Gallia divisa est in partes tres.

> Especially when "Belgians" are put in these places where you are
> about sure these are good P-celt Gauls.

You are a very sure person. Could you corroborate with a p-less
etymology for an IE place name in Belgic territory?

Torsten