Germanic past (was: *-t-, put)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jens Elmegård Rasmussen <elme@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@> wrote:
>
> > *frawarðiða- ðeðe: > *frawarðiðe: (Goth. frawardida) by haplology
> > *frawarðiða- ðe:ðun > *frawarðiðe:ðun (Goth. frawardide:dun)
>
> It's even better: it's
>
> *frawarðiða- ðiðe: > *frawarðiðe:
> *frawarðiða- ðe:ðun > *frawarðiðe:ðun
>
> with /e:/ replacing only IE *e, not IE *i.
>
> The short /e/ of OS deda, OHG teta is from *i by a-umlaut which is
> apparently later than the replacement of /e/ by /e:/ in the
> reduplication. Thus Gmc. *ðiðe:, *ðe:ðun presupposes *ðiðe:, *ðeðun
> from IE *dhi-dhéH1-t, *dhé-dhH1-n.t .

I think this is too complicated. If there was fusion it was
probably from the aorist:

*(e) dhe:xYm, > *ede:m
*(e) dhe:xYs > *ede:s
*(e) dhe:xYt > *ede:
*(e) dhxY,me > *edhme ana> *edume
*(e) dhxY,te > *edhte ana> *eduTe
*(e) dhxYent ana> *edhxYn,t > *edund

*-to- > *-da-


*-da-ede:m *-da-edume
*-daede:m *-daedume
*-d_ede:m *-d_edume
*-de:de:m *-de:dume
*-de:m *-de:dume (hap. in singular)
*-do: *-de:dume (ana. for 1s)