>
> Conclusion: *dhabh-ro-, the origin of Latin faber, Sl. dobryj means
> "tempered" and was used in the beginning of swordblades (and the
> like).
I looked up Miguel's rules of pre-pre-Basque phonology to find out
what *dhabh- "(well-)procerssed" and *dhubh- "(body of) water" might
have looked like in ppBasque, ie. Vennemann's Vasconic.
quote:
"
I have done some frequency statistics on Pre-Basque basic vocabulary,
which has led me to the following hypotheses about "Pre-Pre-Basque"
[**X means Pre-Pre-Basque phoneme, *X is Pre-Basque phoneme]:
1. **p-, **t- and **k- were simply dropped.
2. *-p-, *-t-, *-k-, *-tz-, *-ts-, *-N-, *-L- derive from
geminates/consonant clusters. So does *-d- (< **nd/**nt ?).
3. **-p-, **-t-, **-k- merged with **-b-, **-d-, **-g-.
4. **r became *rr, and **-d- (**-t-) became *-r-.
5. **s became *z, and **s^ became *s.
6. **d- became *z-.
7. **m- [and **w- ?] became *b-.
8. **-m- became *-n-.
"
so I'm looking for Basque roots of the form zabVr- and zub-, or, since
Löpelmann writes s. for s and s for z, for sabVr- and sub-
and
"
sapora-, saphora-(Wohlgeschmack): -garri wert, genüsslich gekostet zu
werden, Appetit anregend; -kisun schmackhaft, saftig; -tu mit Genuss
kosten, (übtr. ) geniessen, "Vergnügen finden an, sich ergötzen, sich
versüssen, sich sänftigen, sich wieder erwärmen, versüssen (z. B. ein
bitteres Medikament); ------- sapore, saphore Wohlge-
schmack, Geschmack, Schmackhaftigkeit, (übtr. ) Gefallen, Interesse,
Vergnügen, Geis -tesverfassung, Laune : -dun wohlschmeckend; -gabe
geschmacklos, fade; -gabetas.un Fadheit; -ts.u schmackhaft,
wohlschmeckend. § lat., aus sapōrem Akk. v. sapor Ge-schmack,
Leckerei (: sapere schmecken).
"
and
"
supe tiefe Furche, Wassergraben, Brunnen, pl. (supeak) Laderaum,Bauch
eines Schiffs;
...
supu Grab, Abzugsgraben, Brunnen. Nebenformen supe, suphu.
§ ablaut.
Var. zu sipu.
"
I think I can defend the well-processed = tasteful semantic equation.
But the really scary thing is that the Basque forms with z- seem to
have IE/Semitic cognates, too, as well as the forms in d- they are
derived from:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/30990
and
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46346
respectively.
Loan and re-loan from Vasconic? from Semitic?
Torsten