Re: ts > c^ ( it was *eH3k'u- 'swift...')

From: alexandru_mg3
Message: 49016
Date: 2007-06-15

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
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> alexandru_mg3 schrieb:
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> > 2. *tsu (from *k'u or not) didn't give c^u in Romanian see tsurca,
> > tsundra etc...
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> > ONLY *tsu: > c^u in Romanian via *tsu: > *tswu > *c^u
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> - are there any sure example which show a such "ts" >"c^" ?
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> if there are some examples then we can go to the next step to speak
> about any long or short "u" and their influence, if any...
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> Alex
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The logic that I used is more simple than your request:

The supposed *atsupeta: suspects tsu > c^u (both for Romanian c^ut&,
as for Alb sut&)

But, in the same time, he have in Romanian tsurc&, tsuic&, tsundr&
etc...

So there is no tsu > c^u in Romanian because the Romanian cluster tsu
is well and safe there, you can see it as I, in tsurc&, tsuic&,
tsundr& and is not a new one.

As result c^ut& cannot be sourced from *atsupeta: the result for
Romanian would be *at,upt& not ac^upt&

(to quote other similar words regarding their length and the initial
a- -> asupri, asurzi, ac&t,a, ant,&rt, arm&sar, apuca, arunca
NOTE that arĂșnc etc.. is accented on u, not on initial a-)

Marius


P.S. :

On the other hand k'w > c^ is a known Proto-Albanian transformation
(see Piotr Albanian 1,2,3)