Re: Germanic KW

From: tgpedersen
Message: 48781
Date: 2007-05-29

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@...> wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
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> > > > > I think that PIE *kaltlos kl,tl(e)+ 'pole/pedestal
> > > > > used to raise something' came to mean 'neck' (as, for
> > > > > example, using 'pot' for 'head').
> > > >
> > > > That root is new to me.
> > >
> > > It's *kel/kal+ 'raise' + *tlo+s used in tools.
>
> > I think the English semantics of 'neck' might be misleading you.
> > 'Hals' in 'Scandinavian' and German means both "neck" and
> > "throat", and it's the latter sense ("narrows") you see in place
> > names: Helsingfors, Helsingør etc. And then there's Kalundborg and
> > Kolding at the end of fjords, Kolind Sund, a now reclaimed longish
> > lake. That sense might have been the first one.
>
> I don't think so; but even if it were true, why would that favor
> *kWel+ as the root?

It would disfavor a derivation from a root meaning something with
pole/pedestal.


Torsten