Re: Germanic KW

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> > > There is something about the "neck" etymologies that
> > > worry me.
> > >
> > > PGerm. *xalsa- "neck"
> > > Lat. collus/collum "neck"
> > > Lith. kãklas "neck"
> > > (Gk. kúklos "wheel")
> > > Estonian kael, -a "neck"
> >
> > > Why the o-grade?
> > > Does the un-IE reduplication in the nominal stem *kWekWol- make
> > > *kWel- non-IE?
> > > How does the Estonian root fit in?
> >
> > I don't agree with that derivation for neck from
> > *kWel+ ('calf' may be the result of another root or
> > mixing, also).
> >
> > I think that PIE *kaltlos kl,tl(e)+ 'pole/pedestal
> > used to raise something' came to mean 'neck' (as, for
> > example, using 'pot' for 'head').
>
> That root is new to me.

It's *kel/kal+ 'raise' + *tlo+s used in tools.

> > There's dissimilation in some branches (l>0 or l>n)
> > and t>s between l_l (sim. to *pYuLtLos 'very small
> > (child/animal) > L pusillus 'very small' but
> > analogical (with *pYutLos > pullus) putillus
> > 'nestling').
>
> Does the first l (why do you write L?) occur in actual words?

Velar L causes optional e>a; with a most common. It has varying
differences from *l in each branch. PIE *pYutos 'short/small/young
child/animal' with dim. *pYutLos which also has a dim. (with
metathesis) *pYuLtLos or *pYuLtkos.

pYutLos .. pYuLtLos
pYutLos .. pYuLsLos
pYutLos .. pYuLsiLos
pYutLos .. pYuLsiLos .. pYuLtiLos ana., specialization
pYutLos .. pYusiLLos .. pYutiLLos
pYulLos .. pYusiLLos .. pYutiLLos
pYullos .. pYusillos .. pYutillos

etc.