Re: [tied] Germanic KW

--- tgpedersen <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

> > One funny thing about PGmc. labiovelars is that
> they tend to lose
> > their labiality next to root-internal apophonic
> *o, as in *gWolbHo- >
> > *kalBa-, *dHogWHo- > *ðaGa- or *kWol(h1)so- >
> *xalsa-. That doesn't
> > seem to work with *warma-, so perhaps it reflects
> *gWHermo- (as in
> > Gk., Arm. and Alb.) with a coloured vowel.
>
> There is something about the "neck" etymologies that
> worry me.
>
> PGerm. *xalsa- "neck"
> Lat. collus/collum "neck"
> Lith. kãklas "neck"
> (Gk. kúklos "wheel")
> Estonian kael, -a "neck"

> Why the o-grade?
> Does the un-IE reduplication in the nominal stem
> *kWekWol- make *kWel-
> non-IE?
> How does the Estonian root fit in?

I don't agree with that derivation for neck from
*kWel+ ('calf' may be the result of another root or
mixing, also).

I think that PIE *kaltlos kl,tl(e)+ 'pole/pedestal
used to raise something' came to mean 'neck' (as, for
example, using 'pot' for 'head').

There's dissimilation in some branches (l>0 or l>n)
and t>s between l_l (sim. to *pYuLtLos 'very small
(child/animal) > L pusillus 'very small' but
analogical (with *pYutLos > pullus) putillus
'nestling').





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