[tied] Re: Latin is a q-Dialect having p- from kW , PIE is similar

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

> 1. the delabialization kW/u > ku happened AFTER p..kW > kW...kW
> Why? Because otherwise we need to see at least in one language p/qu
> alternances for the same root: that is not the case.
>
> So Based ON WHAT YOU SUSTAIN that the delabialisation preceeded
> the p..KW > kW..kW?
>
> => so based on this timeframe:
> 1. p..kW > kW..kW
> 2. kW/u > ku

I agree that this is the order for Latin, not for Celtic.

> > based on
> > *perkunyo where we have a Gothic loan starting with f- indicated for
> > sure an initial p-

> Is what I said initially : the loan happened when Celtic has an
> initial p- and the German still have the p ...(so aprox. before 1000
> BC)

Since Armenian seems to treat p the same as Celtic (p>f>xW>h) it
would have to be much longer ago. I don't believe firgen is a loanword.

> Native?
>
> *perkW- > *perku:-
> and
> *penkWe > *pempe
>
> seems ok for you?

There's no certain evidence that the Germanic KW>P changes are
regular or that they have anything to do with other KW/P sounds in the
word.