Re[2]: [tied] Latin is a q-Dialect having p- from kW , PIE is si

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 48561
Date: 2007-05-14

At 7:46:58 PM on Sunday, May 13, 2007, alexandru_mg3 wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
> <gpiotr@...> wrote:

[...]

>> Thirdly, even in Gmc. we have a reflex of fem.
>> *wl.kW-íh2- > *wulGi- > ON ylgr, demonstrating that the
>> shift of *kW > *p (or even *xW > *f) is relatively
>> recent.

> You are right ON ylgr shows kW, but this doesn't show at
> all a recent transformation : it shows only the same
> dialectal variance kept from PIE times /kW versus p/
> inside different dialects of the same language.

But ON also has masculine <ulfr> (later <úlfr>) alongside
feminine <ylgr>. It's much easier to see the /f/ of <ulfr>
as a relatively recent shift in Gmc. than to see <ulfr> and
<ylgr> deriving from distinct forms in different dialects of
PIE.

Brian