Re: [tied] Re: Romanian APA

Richard Wordingham schrieb:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cybalist%40yahoogroups.com>,
> alex <alxmoeller@...> wrote:
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> > Richard Wordingham schrieb:
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> > > > So only Romanian would remain a unique 'modern case'..in this
> > > > model?
> > > No, Sardinian has a similar change.
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> > Richard, is your answer linked to the sintagm "modern case" or do
> > you include more here?
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> My point is that Romanian is not the only Romance language to show kw
> > p.

that is a wellknown matter and it was discussed by almost each
romanist ( see for more information M.L. Wagner with his
"Historische Lautlehre des Sardischen). So far I know, one speaks
there about almost the same development in the both languages but
developments which should have happen separately in each language.

> It's not as simple as that - in Romanian there are special
> developments such as kwe > ce, and we have both kwa > ka and kwa > pa,
> without any obvious phonetic conditioning.

it is said there has been not a phonetic conditions but it is said
there have been semnaticaly conditions. Thus, the interogative
pronouns should have been kept with "k" due their very special use.

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> Piotr made the point long ago that [kw] > [p] is not an uncommon sound
> change.

uncommon enough to split the same language or the same family of
languages in "p" and "q" dialects.

Alex