Re: How Old is the n-rothacism in Romanian & Albanian dialects

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@...>
wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "altamix" <alxmoeller@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "alexandru_mg3" <alexandru_mg3@>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > If this Dacian prope-dila/proce-dila has something to do with the
> > > word for 5 (five) 'cinque folium' (that is very probable: see

> > mmmmmm.. how qould you like to connect phoneticaly the word for 5
> > with "*prope/proce" here? It seems to me there is a need for many
> > transformations to get a *proce/prope from the IE root.
> >
> > Alex
> >
>
> 1. You are right: I cannot derived it from PIE *5...at least not yet
>
> 2. BUT phonetically: Dacian prope-dila / proce-dila is so closed to
> Gaulish pempe-dula and the meaning 'cinque folium' for this plant
> cannot be ignored

See:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/47442

The assumptions are that PIE r was retroflex and many IE languages
had dental>retro. that could result in C.>r. in some environments.
Most of these changes would be hidden later when C>-retro. in most IE
languages.

In common speech *pentkWe > *peNkWe but in its derivatives the nt
was often preserved.