Re: The role of analogy, alliteration and sandhi in counting

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <stlatos@> wrote:
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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "tgpedersen" <tgpedersen@>

wrote:

> > >
> > > > The point being that the PIE root *pag-/*pak- root should be
> instead
> > > > *(a)kWag-/pag-/pak-, a derivative of the *akWa-/apa- root,

the kW/p

> > > > alternation being of the same pre-PIE origin, cf that that
> > > > alternation exists within Celtic, Italic and Germanic
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> > > Are you talking about how it
> > > appears KW > P in some Germanic words (wolf, sheep)?
> >
> > That too.
> >
> >
> > > Either way I
> > > don't think it has to do with PIE.
> >
> > I think they do. The geographical distribution of the kW/p

variants in

> > akWa/apa can't be aligned with any of the similar variants in

Celtic

> > (q-Celtic vs. p-Celtic), Italic (Latin vs. Oscan-Umbrian) and

Germanic

> > (the above examples). Therefore I suspect some sort of kW/p

variant

> > distribution (sociolects?, substrate-induced?), already existed

before

> > these three groups became separated.
>
> Looking in the archives I see that you've been answered before. I
> don't think you can take one word as evidence of kW/p variation
> related to later changes in IE languages.

I agree with you.

Marius