Re: *wogwh-ni ‘ploughshare’

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Sean Whalen <stlatos@...> wrote:

>
>
> --- Abdullah Konushevci <akonushevci@...> wrote:
>
> > *wogwh-ni `ploughshare'. 1. Alb umb `small plowshare
> > on a wooden
> > plow', Tosk and Standard Albanian form, umi as Gheg
> > variant, from
> > nasalized zero-grade form *ungwh-u, cf. for same
>
> > Lat vo:mis:
> > `ploughshare': OHG waganso `ploughshare', OPrus
> > wagnis `coulter', Grk
> > ophnis. (Pokorny wowing-s 1179.)
>
> If these words are related, I think *ungwhus would
> be
> unnecessary.

First, why do you think or why do you doubt that they can't be
related. As far as I know, English plough is a variant of plow. So,
semantically, plowshare and ploughshare are just two variants of the
same word.

In Greek o>u between certain

> combinations
> of round (or sonorant) sounds. Albanian could have
> had
> KW>P between back and nasal (or something similar as
> in
> Greek *xukWn.ós > ipnós) then metathesis and final *i
> >
> u after CW / P (possibly as a lasting rule from PIE)
> or
> an even more complicated series we wouldn't have
> enough
> evidence for to even be able to think of.

I agree about *xukWn.os > ipnos.

> wegWhnis ... kWekWlos
> wogWhnis ... kWokWlos
> wogWhnis ... kWukWlos
> wogWhnis ... kuklos
> wokWhnis ... kuklos
> wophnis .... kuklos
> ophnis ..... kuklos

Also wogWh-ni-s > ophnis

> wegWhnis
> wogWhnis
> wugWhnis
> wubhnis
> wumbhis
> wumbhus
> umbhus
> etc.

But, if you take into consideration *supnos > Alb gjumë it will be no
hard to assume that as well *-gWhn-/-ngWh- will end as -pn-/-np- >
-mb-/-bm- > -mm- > -m-. I guess that Tosk and Standard form have
homorganic /b/.
To sum up, Alb form umi could be derived from *ugWh-ni- as well as
from *ungWh-ni.

Konushevci